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A standard wire minnow trap will work pretty well, but you might want to enlarge the opening a little bit. Cat food, dog food, canned tuna in oil, or fish heads & entrails from your previous days catch will attract them. Before you go to bed..Bait & weight down your trap and toss in some slack water near a rocky bottom shoal. Youll usually have a bunch of them in the AM..Boil em with some Zatarains liquid shrimp and crawfish boil and some Old Bay..serve with eggs and taters.. Cheers.
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Brown Trout Petition for the Eleven Point
Gavin replied to Brian Sloss's topic in Conservation Issues
From my conversations with the biologists...Food isnt the limiting factor in the blue ribbon stretch of the 11pt. There are plenty of minnows and crayfish, but not a many of trout. Last data I saw published was around 130 trout per mile..For comparison, the Current holds around 450 fish per mile and its much smaller water. For some reason the 11pt just doesnt seem to be living up to its potential as a trout fishery. Thats why I'd like to see brown trout down there. Brown trout thrive in the Current, so I'd imagine that they would do REALLY well in the 11pt. Not sure about the chain pickeral at Montauk...There might be a bunch of them up in the Catch & Release Spring (it looks like good pickeral habitat) but I rarely see pickeral, and I've only caught one on the river between Montauk and Cedar Grove. Not so on the 11pt..Its pretty rare when I dont catch a couple pickeral down there. If you want to target them...try the stairstep hole below Greer, the slough by Hurricane Creek, or the back eddy at Stinking Pond. McCormack like has a bunch of them, as does Noblett Lake. You rarely catch them on flies, but they are suckers for a bluegill colored crankbaits and large in-line spinners. wee-craws work too. Cheers. -
I used to care about things like this, but I dont get to flustered about it anymore. I like to fish for native wild fish if I can, wild non-natives as long as I consider them to be a desireable gamefish, but I wont turn up my nose at stocked non-natives either. I dont turn up my nose at fishing for non-native invasives either..someone needs to kill em. Cheers.
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Keeping kids interested in trout fishing
Gavin replied to deerman's topic in General Angling Discussion
Let your daughter be your guide. Its different with every child. Some of my little nieces and nephews will fish all day w/o complaint or sign of boredom. Some will fish for 30 minutes then want to go swimming, splash in the water, collect minnows & crayfish. I encourage them to fish, but dont make it mandatory. I dont fish myself so I can devote my attention to them, and if they want to do something else, I listen up and let them. Keep it fun and let them direct the day. FWIW, inline spinners, beetle spins are fun, so are jigs..Maybe even get her some little polarized glasses so she can see fish chase her bait..Cheers. -
How would you feel if your kid cut their foot or leg open on a chunk of sharp glass while swimming? You dont toss glass containers in your swimming pool do you? Plastic is a problem, but most plastic containers wont shatter and create debris that will cut someone. It just makes sense not to bring glass with you on the river. Hank, I think the state law bans glass in tippy boats, requires that your cooler lid to be latched down, and specifies that your cooler should be secured to your boat. If your floating a river thats controlled by the National Park Service (Current, Jacks, Buffalo, etc) its no glass period, no exception based upon the type of watercraft.. FWIW, the water patrol could probably write a ticket for glass in a jet boat, they arent as tippy as canoes, I've seen jet boats get swamped too..Cheers.
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Glass containers on the river are definitely illegal in MO..Bought the only pro-environmental legislation that Sarah Steelman ever put her name on... Littering just aint right. Cheers.
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Thanks...I've got the book and its a good one, but I'm thinking of something a little different. http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/05/outing...unner2/free.cfm Kind of like the one above, but with a removable center rowing seat, fly rod racks, etc.
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Wayne, sorry I missed it. I think the Lowe was a 32" bottom, 45" beam, and came in two versions a 15' and a 17'..Been thinking of building a 16' out of marine ply but havent gotten around to it yet. Think it would be the perfect rig to use with my 1964 Evinrude 3hp Lightwin folding motor. Rebuilt the carbs and put a new mag on it couple years ago for a trip to the UP, but havent run it since.
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General attractors can work really well at times, r. leg stimulators, Humpies, Renegades, Cracklebacks, Chernobyls, etc... Not much hatch activity from here on out..but I'd carry some teeny weenies, trico's, bwo's, and some terrestrials (hoppers, crickets, beetles, green weenies, and ants). Fish your terrestrial tight to the bluff faces and under overhanging vegetation and do the hopper/cricket, beatle, ant program. If they dont take the hopper, use the beetle, and so on..Cheers.
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Wish I would have known that you had one for sale...If anyone has a Lowe or G3 Paddle Jon for sale, I'd be interested.
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What is your favorite Smallmouth bait?
Gavin replied to Chief Grey Bear's topic in General Angling Discussion
I like to fish a bait I can see, Sammy or Spook, Buzzbait, or Fluke. If they wont come up..Spinnerbait or Wee Craw for mid water, Zoom Fat Albert, Finesse Worm, or 4" Chompers on the bottom. -
Going on vacation to Florida...need some advice
Gavin replied to tippet7's topic in General Angling Discussion
Indian River Lagoon can be good..Redfish, Snook, Tarpon, Specks. Hire a guide and get some casting practice with an 8 or 9wt. Cheers. -
The old Lowe or G3 paddle jons are really neat boats. Here's a pic of the one MDC uses as a shock boat on the Upper Current. I think Voyager Boats in Lebanon will build one for you, called a dealer about one last year and the said I could get one for $1800. I think Blazer Sport makes one too. Cheers.
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Going to Henry's Fork End of July
Gavin replied to troutchaser's topic in General Angling Discussion
Mike Lawson is the man on the H. Fork. Fish are spooky, use a long fine leader and pick your casts carefully..Check out the Henry's Fork Anglers website for tips, whats working, etc.. If you can afford it, do a float through the Box Canyon. Cheers. -
Brown Trout Petition for the Eleven Point
Gavin replied to Brian Sloss's topic in Conservation Issues
It would be really hard to develop Greer Spring..its like a little canyon down there, lots of slippery rocks and a very high gradient a long way from the road. Think a kayaker died while trying to run it a long time ago. Its fishable though..I've never had the priveledge, but there are some folks who have permission to fish the spring and do. As for public use...there is already a public trail that takes you down to the spring head. Its a really pretty spot and I'd like to see it preserved as is...I cant see a reason to keep the public out, but I wouldnt mind if it stayed closed to public fishing. Why introduce extra traffic and the fishing litter? -
Dunno but it looks like some kind of scar, hook scar, heron scar, leach, lamprey bite, net injury, something that happened at or on the way from the hatchers...They stock a ton of hatchery fish on the White, could be anything.
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North for the summer vacation. Suggestions please!
Gavin replied to Kicknbass's topic in General Angling Discussion
Depends on where your headed and what you want to catch. Good trout fishing in the Dells, and some great smallie action in the St. Croix near Danbury, or in the Upper Missippi above the Twin Cities. I dont know beans about catching walleye, but they should have those too. Cheers. -
My Wife and I floated Greer to Whitten with another couple last Memorial Day and there was a ton of enforcement out on the water. They were writing lots of tickets just below the Greer Access, but they just said hellow to us. Glad to see them out, but I wish they werent running up and down so much. All the jet traffic put the brakes on the fishing. Cheers.
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Any wadeable smallie creeks around the Theodosia area?
Gavin replied to kkparks_3's topic in General Bass Fishing Discussions
Chuck Tryon..his book is "200 Missouri Smallmouth Adventures" and you can get a copy here www.thargrove.com. Cheers. As for that area, Bryant Creek is about an hour east..160 east, then north on 181...MDC has some public assess points along it. Florence Cook Access, Warren Bridge, Sycamore, Vera Cruz..You might try Beaver Creek that flows into Bull, or head west and hit the James R. or Finley Creek. Cheers. -
Big Fish Food: Sculpins 2-5" long Minnows 2-5"long Crayfish 2-4" long Terrestrials (Hoppers, Beetles, Ants) Fish Guts (Cream or Ginger Mohair Leach below the park) Hatches Caddis 12-20, most #16 Trico's 22 & smaller BWO 18-20 or 22 and smaller March Brown #12 Light Cahill 12-14 Hex size 4-6 Any general purpose nymph will work at times, but make sure you have some prince nymphs, golden stones, and egg patterns. Good Luck.
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The hatch of the 17 year locust is coming!!
Gavin replied to jdmidwest's topic in Fly Tying Discussions & Entymology
Not sure if were gonna get any this year but thanks for the pattern. http://extension.missouri.edu/explore/aggu...ests/g07259.htm Had a blast fishing them in 1998! The pattern I used then was a bass bug stinger hook, spun black deer hair trimmed to shape with a orange died grizzley saddle hackle wound through it. Cheers. -
SeaLine for me too.
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There are some good maps pegged to the top of the forum..This might help too. Cheers http://www.mdc.mo.gov/atlas/google_earth/
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Ive been up a few times in August, and for the most part the trout & dollies have been on eggs. Pegged beads worked the best for me and you'll need two sizes, small ones for red salmon roe, and the big 10-12mm ones to imitate king salmon roe. The one the locals call the Claymore is a really good one, its opaque, and its supposed to look like a dead egg. Lots of pinks, oranges, reds, and some flesh tone nail polish to color them up a bit. If your going early in August, bring your regular trout nymphs, buggers, and dry flies....Theres a dead week or two between the time that the salmon fry leave, and when the salmon start dropping eggs and dying...Fish your regular trout flies at that time. If your after silvers, think pink. In moving water, I usually go with a 250-350grain shooting head, and Tom Hargrove's pink string leach. In slack water, I'd go with a floating line and a pink Sparkleminnow in size 2. Cheers.
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I really couldnt care less if someone fishes for bedding largemouth or crappie, but I dont fish for bedding trout or smallmouth anymore. Been there done that and I just dont enjoy it that much. Not much skill to it. The fish arent going anywhere, so its just a matter of spotting fish and making repeated presentations till the fish bites or you give up. It seems to appeal to folks who like to catch more than they like to fish. Kind of like trout park tournaments and other forms of fun for the feable-minded. Cheers.