fishinwrench

I've brought this up several times in similar discussions. The other "WRITTEN LAW" describing private vs. public water, aside from the "navigable" term.... are the words "used for commerce". That can mean: used to float logs down, used as a city water supply, dredged for gravel...ect.

Funny you should ask Brownieman, there was a girl with him....and NO she was not in uniform. She was more like..... dressed for a picnic actually. LOL Is "dating while you work" a common thing.... Like a state employee perk, or something ?

Not really, not in the Niangua anyway...I've pretty much been targeting the trout still. With the water heating up though, that is about to change. Been hitting the LO tribs for Smallies some, but nothing spectacular to report.

I'd like to find a stripper too....but even more than that...I'd love to find TROUT below Bagnell. I think we have an ooops...LOL

Good one !!!

You had Holler's ?

It's lookin' good today (a little cloudy, and still a bit high...'bout perfect). The water feels awfully warm..... good for Smallies & Goggleye...bad for trout. The Trout I caught today didn't fight as hard as usual, and none of them even attempted to jump. Strikes were half-hearted and hard to detect, and once hooked they were sluggish. I'm gonna blame it on the warm runoff. I gotta take this opportunity to piss and moan about the jetboats. I don't like seeing them on the Niangua, and they are getting more frequent as time goes on. Got checked for my permit today by MDC....after they blasted through the run I was fishing...TWICE! How can they successfully enforce game laws from a darn jetboat? I mean, you can hear them coming from 3 miles away....and the last few "OFFICER/AGENTS" I've seen are NOT experienced river-jet operators, by any stretch of the imagination. (I specifically LOOKED for a PFD in the boat....they might have been stuffed somewhere, but I couldn't see them). Sorry, but IMO this is ignorant. Plus, from the boat operating "skill" I have seen...it's just a matter of time before one of these "agents" mow over a swimmer, fisherman, or a canoe. What a nasty headline that would be...if it didn't get "covered up".

Thanks Fella's, Picked her up a pair today. One of the shops I frequent had a pair of Hodgman wadelite's that have "just enough room to grow a year or so"... I think. If she wears them out before she grows out of them.....I'll be proud

No, she wants the "stockingfoot design", and "breathables" if we can find them. Also should mention that we have (For Sale Cheap) a pair of youth sized stockingfoot neoprenes (Flytech) that still have alot of miles left on them...She has grown out of those.

I'm looking for a pair of breathables for my 12 Y/O daughter. Are there any shops that carry them ?

It has stabilized enough to be good....but don't load the car yet... here comes more rain.

Maybe I'm just being an butt....but a good job of "hand landing" the fish (any fish) is part of the skill that makes a flyfisher what he is. If I said that those boga's and similar gadgets are "Yuppy flyfisher" toys...would y'all think poorly of me ? Cuz we can't have that

I've come to grips with the "raining fish" thing....fish DO fall from the sky far away from their home water ....as do frogs, crawdads, and other pond critters after a tornado passes over a farmpond...somewhere. We had a F-2 tornado March of 06....a few of our belongings have fallen from the sky 45 miles (by road) from where our house was. (the heaviest being a ink pen with my business name on it) So it's easy to see how small critters could get relocated. fish would most likely be dead, but frogs and crawdads might make it if the landing wasn't to abrupt. Just this last April there was a cloud of red dust that settled in the Portland, and Hermann, Mo. area....supposably it was from a dust storm/or tornado out in Oklahoma. Once an object (stick, rock, fish, pelican, goose...ect,) is in the jet stream, I guess it can be pushed for a very long distance.

I'm not so sure DD. Wish I could see it with its wings at rest. Does the Dobsonfly have the long antenna? been a long time since I've seen one ... out of Helgie form. Dobsonflys also have noticable PINCHERS...bigguns. I'm thinkin' it's a Stonefly. But then again, something about it doesn't look aquatic. Geeze, why did I even reply to this post...I have no freakin'idea ! LMAO

I would lean toward relying more on the Paddlers guide than I would CT's book. I get the impression that he hasn't floated much....and prefers to fish within walking distance of the accesses. You may have some "jet boat company" below Rochester rd. And will definately have some below Schlicht if during the weekend. I haven't floated any of those stretches entirely, but have put in (and paddled UP several miles) from some of the accesses you mentioned.

Took a look at it today (Monday), it's still moving alot of mud and I considered it "boderline fishable", we decided to play in the park. Lots of Browns caught today and a massive tan caddis hatch on the lower end began at about 5pm.

Doggonnit....the Niangua can't get a break it seems, soon as it begins to clear up and stabilize...here comes another gully-washer. Then again, maybe this is just "the break" it needs. Ya ever wonder what the floor of lake Niangua looks like? Gotta be covered with bottles, cans, sunglasses and strings of multi-color beads.

Oh you should have seen it Tuesday, The "Wine growers of the World" convention did a float from Bennett to NRO...complete with two (2) jetboat/paramedic escorts. Fishermen were personally asked by the folks from NRO to "get out of the river" while they brought the jetboats in and got them all set up. They were as nice as they could be about it, and apologized afterwards....but still, something about that didn't set too well with me.

I'm trying to imagine what that would taste like.....Sounds alot like douche-pie Sorry....really.

I had a good day Tuesday, and I have a pleasant new attitude about the canoe traffic....when they comes in spurts (ie: groups) ever hour or so....it kinda wakes the fish up and moves them around. Within 10 minutes of a big group passing I experienced some really agressive multiple takes, this happened numerous times throughout the day. Also noticed a definate movment of fish into the shallowest part of the riffles late in the evening...even though it was cloudy all day. All of my fish except 3-4 were caught on a dark-olive soft hackle.

here's a pic of it....I think. blackbird

I don't think those hatches mean much to the trout in the river. It sure turns on the Chubs though. The trout in the Niangua stay so full of snails that they "rattle" when you land them. I'm thinking of experimenting with an epoxy snail pattern of sorts......seen any good ones ? Oh yeah, Prosperine access (Mountain cr.) is about 3-4 miles below Ho-Humm, on the right. Access by road is SW of Eldridge off N....go left @ end of the blacktop. I have plans to visit Barclay and another area Tues.

The trout I've caught below Ho-Humm have been considerably fewer, and usually accidental while fishing for other things. But the ones I have caught further down (as far as Mountain cr.) have been really good sized and looked healthy. For all intents and purposes though, the trout water ends at Prosperine, but there's always a few stragglers down as far as Leadmine.

Am I understanding You HHchub, to include fishing the White bass run, or fishing ANY shallow water area from March-late June ? Crappie along the banks in spring, ect. ect? C'mon now ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I knew it, I just KNEW IT, writing letters to the editor is just creating more interest in the article. It was a POS article....best move is to let it die quietly, IMO.

Irresponsible? I dunno, maybe. "Pointless"...for sure. There wasn't any useful information that anybody that fishes rivers in MO. didn't already know. I consider the article simply a vehicle for plugs, intended to bring a little business for a couple of guides and campground/resorts. I see no need for "letters to the editor", however I wouldn't be suprised if a few are being constructed at this very moment. I have confessed to being a bed-fisher before, I don't actually go out "targeting bedding fish", but normally I won't pass up the chance when I notice one......It's exciting to watch the fish react to a bait and I know I've learn alot by doing it. Every good angler has done it, and everyone trying to be a better angler has the right to do it. But I do feel that it is something we just shouldn't talk, or brag about in mixed company. One thing is for sure, if sombody, the right sombody makes a big enough stink about it we'll eventually have a "closed season", and I darn sure don't want that.