Phil Lilley

I'd say 50.

Polock is having a hard time finding them... may be it's not that easy. Hope you find them!

There are so many blue gill and gravel banks on Table Rock, I wouldn't think you'd need specific locations. That's half the fun and satisfaction anyhow... the hunt- and finding them. Get out early - you might see some fish surfacing and then it could get real interesting.

Not speaking for Eric but his post doesn't appear to me to refer to client's fishing but his experience. Most, if not all, of us guides know 99% of our clients can't do the things we do as far as casting, working the bait or feeling the bite. But it is fun when we get someone who can! I think I'll add this topic to the "best of". Great answer Eric- and anyone else who wants to add to it still can.

I fished 4 hot white bass spots around the dam and caught 2 whites trolling. They weren't hungry after the rain I guess. But what a beautiful sunset!! Pic to follow.

What's at 2333 E. Bennett? Need to post the name of the store... No problem - this isn't spam at all. Everyone loves a fishing sale! You've been a member for over 2 years. If you were a spammer you'd be a "sleeper spammer". Thanks for posting it.

Depends on people weight. If it's just you, then a 15 hp would be fine. A 25 hp would be better, esp if you're taking more people. A 25 hp will pushing most any size jon - up to a 20 footer. I'll have some used 25's this fall if you can wait. Probably about $1000 each.

The top image is manageable... the other one is too big. One thing... I had to cut off the west end of the lake cause the map needed to be 8.5 x 11 inches. I guess I need to make another map with the west side included. It'll have to be done later this week - no time right now.

Ugggh... I need to update those TR maps. They have an old email address on them, plus I bet I could improve them. Here's the updated map. Any comments?

Look at this map I created and see if I'm missing anything. I guess what I'm after is accesses and parks and places to fish from the bank. Thanks pl bank.pdf

SKMO, Can you give directions to this place. I can't find it on any sites. Thanks

Oh yea... they love jigs down there. I don't think they see many. I'd love to go down there more often. Did well at Rim and below the dam.

I'm going to move this topic to "best of" so keep the great info coming.

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Remember, all bank line is owned by the corp to a certain water level, which is WAY up the bank. You can walk the bank even in front of homes or condos but you can't walk up out through private property. So you can start at any public access and walk up and down the bank.

Bull Shoals rose a little over 2 feet yesterday! Wonder where it will crest. Looks like they're not running much water.

What did it say when you tried to attach your pic? For those who aren't on facebook . . . here's the pic. Great fish!

The dam area: Moonshine beach and the bank up and down from it. One problem though it the water is up in the trees so it's limited. BUT you can start at the auxiliary dam and walk to the main dam and fish some great water, esp the rip-rap. I have a friend who's caught (and released) a bunch of bass throwing a spook the last 3 weeks off the rip-rap.

Hey- did you catch any of the small browns? The first 2 fish I caught above #1 against the bank were browns- about 12 inches. They must be just stocked. Was hoping for a few more whites to make a small mess but he went back in the lake. I tried across the lake at the cable for whites- that's where I usually catch them but nothing...

This lines up with MDC mortality rates for trout - 5% on artificial lures and flies - according to their studies. I didn't think that pertained to bass... may be all fish. I can get the study from Mike Kruse if interested... I think.

Super! Thanks for the pics.

Four-Full. That's what they're running at Table Rock Dam. With the rains we've gotten the last week and more in the forecast, they're having to run as much as they can through the turbines in order to move all the rain water through the system. Beaver Lake has shot up and so has Table Rock but they really aren't in too bad shape considering. We got more rain last night so we'll see what that does to Table Rock's level. If you're wondering how long they will run all four units, it depends on how much more rain we get but if it stopped today, I'd say it will run until Memorial Weekend, at least. Bank and dock fishing is very difficult. You may be able to fish from the bank and docks down at the Landing and downtown Branson but up here it's pretty fast and deep. Boating is about the only way to catch any trout at this point. One thing this flow has done is taken care of the moss problem we were having before the rains. The water is clear and 41 degrees coming from Table Rock with little to no moss. Starting at the dam, I've done fairly well throwing 1/8th oz sculpin, white, brown, olive or gray jigs along the banks where the water is eddied or slower. That's where the trout seem to be holding up is in the slower pockets. The trick is controlling the boat in such fast current and fishing at the same time. You do have to be careful and not get into any trees in swift current. One thing you have to do, and it's not the first time I've stated this, is you have to get the jig down. You can see the bottom really clear and you can see the grass and wood on the bottom so the natural reaction is NOT to let the jig sink close to the bottom cause you don't want to get snagged and lose your jig. But it's deceiving . . . it takes quite a bit of time for your jig to sink in this current and if it's not down deep, you won't get bit. Just count on losing some jigs--you'll catch more fish. Once again, fish the slow side of the lake, not the fast side. You can look and see which side is slow--and it does switch sides. At the cable below the dam, the slow side is on the north down to just above Rocking Chair but the other side (south side) is slow from the island down to Trophy Run (below the boat ramp). There's also slow water from the ramp to the top of the island on the north side. There are some good pockets below the rip-rap at Trophy Run down to Lookout Island, then I would fish either side of the lake from the Island down to Fall Creek. From there, it doesn't make any difference which side you fish, there's eddies and slow water on both sides. Vince had a trip yesterday, fly fishing the trophy area. His clients did well considering the conditions. He rigged them up with a large float and enough split shop to get the flies to the bottom and used about 15 feet of tippet from the float to the first fly. He used an egg fly on top and a #12 grey scud below it 18 inches and drifted the shallow side of the lake from Andy's House to Fall Creek. He said they really liked the scud and from other reports on the forum, that's pretty much the consensus. Below Fall Creek, we've been sending most of our clients downstream to slow current to catch rainbows. And they're doing very well using Gulp Eggs, drifting them on the bottom and staying in the middle of the lake. My son and a friend drifted from Fall Creek to our place, Lilleys' Landing, and caught his limit of rainbows fairly easy the other day doing just that. I believe it's easier to drift from here down but you can do either and do well. During rains like we've had, night crawlers are always good to use because there are a lot of worms being washed in the lake from rain. PS... I caught a big white bass on a sculpin jig this morning in outlet #1.

I know there's been all kinds of posts here on this subject and this isn't the first post of it's kind but this discussion isn't going to go anyplace with post like this one. You don't have to be condescending to state your opinion. Plus if you think the mortality rate is high when releasing fish, then present a study and stats proving it. This only adds to polarizing the two sides. Let's ALL try a little harder to be civil.

#2 scuds? Did you mean #12? They're running 4 full units... it would be tough to get down, for sure.