Phil Lilley

Actually, MDC could kill the river and start over. They do it in other states. Wyoming killed off a section of a river this year to rid the river of a non-native species of trout so that they could restock the river with the native species. I know the biologist that carried out the deed. He introduced a chemical at one point in the river, then added the neutralizer at the ending point which rendered the poison harmless. Didn't harm the insects, I don't think. Have to do some research later today if I get time.

6-7 foot medium light rod is perfect. #8 or #6 hook. I'll be at Queeney Park on Jan 12.

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Speaking of worms... I'll post a video I shot this evening.

Lee Richardson goes to our church with his wife and kids. His dad is Fred Richardson, former owner of Buck Creek Marina on Bull Shoals. I met Fred and his lovely wife, Vera, back in the late 80's on the dock. They were great with people - fisherpeople. Still are. Lee took me over to Protem this morning where we started our fishing day our of Buck Creek with Fred at the helm. Fred is still guiding and doing quite well. Lee said they've been catching alot of whites and other mixed species spooning in 35 to 55 feet of water on the flats. We got away from the dock about 9 am. It was cold! Arrived in the Lead Hill area and almost immediately found fish in 37 feet of water. Fred dropped 2 buoys and we started catching whites. It wasn't hot and heavy. We doubled up once. Fished till noon and had 30+ whites and 2 yellow perch. Saw lots of activity on the screen but with a high blue sky and wind out of the east, we were lucky to catch anything. Had a great morning... Nice to see the Richardson's again and nice to see a part of Bull Shoals I hadn't seen in a long time.

Depends on what you call secluded. Blue Haven may the best closest to what you're looking for. Not sure what is on the lower end of the lake.

The Corp won't allow that. They won't allow Taney's level to rise 1 inch at the face of Table Rock Dam because it would case back pressure on their release. Any back pressure cost $$$. Anything that holds back the water like a dike or spillway or line of rocks across the tailwater won't be allowed. Any depth that's gained must come from taking away material, in our case mostly gravel and we're going to try to do this by placing rocks at strategic spots below the dam.

It is fairly steep but not overly... it's used more than most ramps too- year round. Could be percentages... who knows. I'm not saying this guy did anything wrong... could have been faulty brakes or something. He was alone I understand. There were people there to help. Ryan and Curtis ran over there when they heard about it. Ryan took the pic (my nephew and dockhand).

This gentleman got out before it went in. This morning at Cooper Creek Ramp. Ryan, my nephew and dockhand took the pic. I guess the boater backed the van back with his back hatch open so it filled up immediately when it hit the water. No other details at this time.

I'll add mine... It's been slow in the trophy area for the last 5 days. Might have a good drift and catch 4-6 trout and then nothing. Below Fall Creek, though, has been very good, drifting Gulp and night crawlers. I fished alittle Friday and caught a few on one drift from Lookout to Short creek but most of them came below Fall Creek on a orange head/sculpin 1/50th oz jig under a float 8 feet deep. Today I made one drift and caught nothing. Lake is very dark, lots of dark silt coming from Table Rock since it turned over, which is normal.

You can email them to me or... you probably need to reduce the images to 800 pixels wide.

I tried to find a site to see what MSA is all about... it seems their site is down? Got this off http://fly-fishing-smallmouth.com/html/sm_alliance.html - Missouri Smallmouth Alliance: Contact Joe Dmuchvosky at motsa@smallmouth.org

You really have to pay attention to the lake level, not how many units they're running. It's like if you had 4 faucets on your sink... you might turn on all 4 faucets but only have them on half way. Or 2 faucets on 1/4 - that's what they are doing with 2 units at 50mw.

I'm not sure what you want me to do. Anyone can post a petition on the forum. First you're going to have to come to some consensus on wording and what you want to accomplish. If you don't, if you make it too narrow, I doubt if you get many signatures. Also, you're going to have to do better than a screen name. I've suggested this in the past - change your screen name to your real name.

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Is there a good site with details on location, map of the river that you all use? I must confess, I know very little about the fishery, just what I've read on the forum.

That's why I throw white jigs in the winter. No shad, none coming through the dam. I'll let you know when.

Speaking of cig butts.... an old timer told me back in the 40's or 50's when marabou jigs first came out (or may be not), they were fishing Grand Lake and catching tons of crappie on jigs but ran out so they took their cig filters, took them apart and tied them on their hooks and continued to catch crappie. Hopefully my memory did the story justice... you know how fish stories go.

I actually thought it was a good conversation. Pretty civil compared to other discussions. Didn't see anyone getting nasty or anything. And glorydaze got all his questions answered... that's a good thing.

I know. Make a pact. Start a thread and have those who would sign or post promising that IF they ever caught a record fish, anywhere, they would release it, then never tell a soul about it. Now that'd be the ultimate purest. It's very possible we have someone here that's done it... but we'll never know

I asked a MDC fisheries biologist about spawning bass in Taney and this was his comments- Generally speaking, smallmouth will spawn around 57-64 degrees, and largemouth will spawn around 60-72 degrees. Taneycomo is a little different though. It seems that the bass spawn in Taneycomo is more affected by the length of daylight hours than water temperature. For example, we sampled Taneycomo on May 19, 2008 when the water temperature was about 59 degrees and we saw largemouth spawning everywhere. In 2009 we sampled about a week earlier, water temperature was around 58 degrees and only saw about a fourth of what we saw in 2008. The vegetation wasn’t growing yet and the fish just weren’t on the beds. In 2008, the vegetation was growing very well and they were on beds all around the shoreline. In our samples, the water temperature was much warmer in Bull Creek than the main lake, and I think that makes a difference on timing of the spawn to some degree. Can’t say for positive sure though because when we were there, the water clarity was a lot worse, making it more difficult to see fish. We did sample one largemouth that measured 22.5 inches in 2009, it weighed about 7 pounds. Caught it on the main lake south of Rockaway. We usually wait for the water temperature in Table Rock to reach 60 degrees before we start sampling. I think you could safely say that the bass will spawn in Taneycomo about 2-3 weeks after the bass in Table Rock. If the water temperature never gets warm enough, they will go by length of daylight. Smallmouth tend to spawn in more rocky, gravelly substrate, vs. largemouth that prefer woody cover and silty substrate. I think that’s why we get such good largemouth recruitment in Table Rock during high water years (i.e. 2008). Lots of woody cover (buttonbush) and more silt to spawn around when the water is high. It seems to be the trend that we’ll get good smallmouth recruitment during lower water years and better largemouth recruitment during high water years. We found largemouth spawning in coves by Powersite, in the main lake south of Rockaway Beach, and in Bull Creek. All of the suitable habitat is there in the entire lower lake for the largemouth to spawn. I can’t say for sure about where the smallmouth spawn because our electrofishing gear isn’t effective in capturing smallmouth (they’re usually too deep). I do know that there is an excellent population of smallmouth in Bull Creek, and some nice ones too. Just go wading where the lake turns to creek sometime in the summer and you’ll see them. I have to imagine that those fish use Taneycomo as well. I suspect they spawn more up the creek arms in the lower lake, and if that is the case, there’s plenty of suitable habitat for them there. They may also spawn deep in the main lake, but if they do, we’d never see them in our samples. We don’t even see many smallmouth in Table Rock when we sample, they just stay too deep.

I still think we need to blame the fish for our differences...

And I expressed my opinion.... It wasn't a "rule violation". Or, Eric, you could say it was the brown's fault. Come on... you know that's what the underlying feeling are about this ordeal. You're mad that that stupid brown took a piece of power bait instead of someone's fly, jig or crank bait. The man had nothing to do with the fish taking the bait. He was looking for rainbows to eat. A big stupid brown ate the power bait, he fought the brown and netted it and thus was thrown into the lime light of the angling world of forums and coffee shop talk where he's battered for catching the brown on power bait when he actually had no choice in the matter. As soon as he hooked the fish, he had a choice... land the sucker and be ridiculed for using power bait or break it off and be free of the upcoming hoard of critics. OK, I'm being overdramatic. But you get my jest. It was the fish's fault! We have NO respect for that 28.8 pound brown - right!?

Sorry it was so cold today on your birthday. Too cold to go fishing... for most of us.