Phil Lilley

Thanks - I understand. now.

Our condolences!

I have a question. Here's the section on the Caddis - In the caddis family, the longest underwater stage is the larva, unlike the mayfly. A caddis larva essentially looks like a maggot, with a soft, often off-white body with no legs on it, usually a dark head, and with a couple of short short legs right behind the head that it uses to hold on to rocks with. Some caddis species have green, even bright green bodies, and are often called "green rockworms". In many caddis species the larva build cases out of sand, pebbles, sticks, and other debris, and the only thing that ever sticks out of the case is their head. Others are free-living. Both cased and non-cased caddis larva occasionally become loose and available to fish for food, and I'm sure they are softer and tastier than other nypmhs :-), so trout will often readily take a caddis larva pattern. When ready to become an adult, the larva essentially cacoon themselves like moths or butterflies, and go through a pupal stage. During this time they are of no importance to fisherman. At the time of hatching, though, the pupa crawls out, and swims for the surface so it can hatch to an adult. This is a very important stage for fisherman, and emerger fishing in a caddis hatch can be very good. Caddis adults only have one stage. The adults have short bodies that are completely hidden (from above) by tent-shaped wings (not dome tents, but the old A-frame tents), no tails, and very long, pronounced antennae. Caddis adults often skitter (or "motorboat") across the surface as they are drying and waiting to fly off -- even more often on lakes. In depositing eggs, most caddis species swim below the water, and so offer wet-fly imitation to be effective. They do not tend to die near or on the water, unless eaten by a fish, of course. During this time they are of no importance to fisherman. Why is this? I'd think this is the stage we'd use a zebra midge.

Went back out... did the same exact thing (scud from Andy's down)... and didn't get bit ONCE! They did kick on more water - according to the chart 2 more feet. I had a tough time getting to the bottom with the same weight. When I was out before, I could get a real good drag on the bottom. ON THE BOTTOM - that's the key!

Went out from 1:30 to 3:30. Drifted once from Lookout to Fall Creek and used a scud with shooting line - fly rod rig and didn't do well. Caught a couple but just didn't feel like I was getting a good drift. Back up to Lookout- really Andy's house- and started there this time with a spin cast, split shot and a #10 peppy (gray) scud. Caught 12 rainbows- the last 2 just before Fall Creek. Switched to night crawlers and they wouldn't leave them alone. Went thru 9 crawlers and landed only 3 rainbows before Short Creek. They were sucking on it - couldn't get a hook in 'em. Lost a couple after hooking them. 15 rainbows one drift. Missed lots on the scud and more on the crawler. They are biting, at least this afternoon. Going back out and trying something different. They are still running the equivalent of 1.75 units. Drift is great- not many boats out. Water temp is 53 and not as stained as it has been.

Pick the water you want to check and click the blue, underlined number to the left of the water listed. That will take you to the water chart showing close to real time water levels.

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Brian, We just covered this in a topic - http://ozarkanglers.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19784

I'm tickled pink for you, Jeremy! Looking forward to fishing out of the new Ranger with you!! "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="660" height="405">

We were using smaller scuds - my thought since the water was slower, smaller would be better. No so. Glad you guys did well. It was a beautiful day to be out, regardless if you're catching fish or not.

Eric Olliverson takes 15th in the Pro Division!

http://bfl.flwoutdoors.com/tournament.cfm?...&coAngler=1 Check this out!! DeGray Lake Regional 10/22/09 - 10/24/09 -- DeGray Lake Iron Mountain Lodge and Marina, Arkadelphia, AR Qualifying Divisions: Cowboy , Louisiana/Texas , Okie , Ozark Places FIRST in the Co-Angler Division and takes home a Ranger! Way to go Jeremy!

We have 2 units open now for this weekend... #15 and #16 - 3 bedroom and a 2 bedroom, 2 baths, 2 of our most popular units.

Summer pool is 915. Winter pool is 917.

Got out from 2-4:30 this afternoon. Drifted from dam to Fall Creek but mainly stayed from Lookout down. Sculpin and white 1/8th oz jigs. Scuds and San Juans on the bottom. Caught a few, very slow for us. Didn't see many others catching either including 3 guide boats. BUT our guests reported having a very good day catching rainbows with Gulp eggs from Fall Creek down today. A very good day.

This rambling thing isn't working out very well.... not rambling enough. One thing I've noticed today as the gates shut down is that the water isn't clearing up at all. It's still pretty chalky color. I'm heading up here in a little bit to see what it looks like above Fall Creek. Will report back.

I just noticed that the water in front of our place has calmed - no foam - and the level has dropped. Check the chart this am and noticed that they've dropped their generation to 120 mw which is about 1.25 turbines although they are running all 4 units. Lake level is 708.0 which is still pretty high but I look for that to drop out some. Table Rock's level is 917.6. I'd think we may see slow water and may be no generation for periods here in the next week. I'd go as far to say I'd bet they MAY not run water tomorrow morning... but I'm not a betting man.

http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Programs/WRP/

Looking at some land in Kansas. It qualifies for this program. Anyone have any experience putting land into wetlands?

Thanks Ryan for the fishing trip... you're a fantastic guide! The Eleven Point article is also on the front page of ozarkanglers.com.

Thanks for the video. It's cool to see vids like this... gives us an idea what the water looks like. I edited the youtube vid to play in the post - hope you don't mind. I did have to change the settings to allow html - it wasn't set up to allow it when you posted the topic.

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Greetings- I saw this on another forum. Reply to this post with anything - an "X" - "Hi!" - whatever. Here! This will show how many ACTIVE members are viewing as well as posting on the forum. Even if you've never posted, just put an X on it and tell us you're here. To date (11/12), we've had 237 members post. By my calculations, I'm missing about 200 that have been on the forum that have not posted here. Thanks!

Hey Tito! Now I know who you are! Thanks for the pic.

I caught fish on olive pine squirrels. Seeing what's in the river - seeing what I saw in the net the other day, I'd throw nothing but crawfish and stone nymph patterns. I think they catch bigger trout. Get'em deep in the deeper holes. And I'd throw jigs.