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  1. http://www.bransondailynews.com/story.php?storyID=13595 Phil Surratt In a couple of years, Table Rock Lake may be producing more trophy bass thanks to flooding in 2008. Shane Bush, fisheries management biologist with the Missouri Department of Conservation, said flooding can sometimes provide better homes for bass. “If anything, last year’s heavy rain had a good impact on the fish population,” Bush said. “When the lake came up, water moved into wooded and grassy areas. That provided excellent habitat.” As a result, Bush said fish samples taken this past spring revealed large numbers and big fish. “From our spring electro-fishing samples we found a big-year class of 6 to 7 inch fish that were born in 2008,” Bush said. “With the high water, they had more spawning ground and they had more cover throughout the summer. The survival rate was excellent because of the conditions that were created by the flooding.” Bush said it will take about three to four years for the bass to mature into trophy size. Bush said he is expecting to see some pretty big numbers of fish being caught in the near future. “We had a bumper crop in 2008 and those fish should reach 15 inches by 2012,” Bush said. From the anglers’ standpoint, bass numbers are already up. Rick LaPoint, of Springfield, who guides on Table Rock nearly every day, said his clients are steadily boating fish. “The fish are small right now,” LaPoint said. “Give it time and we will be catching larger bass on a regular basis. I’ve seen an improvement since the flooding.” Bush said electro-fishing surveys last year also revealed large numbers of white bass. Bush said anglers are already reporting large catches. “We are hearing about some of the largest catches anglers have had in a long time,” Bush said. “Those fish were born in 2008 in all of the high water, so white bass fishing should be phenomenal for about the next two to three years for sure,” he said. “Anglers can expect to catch more white bass than they have historically.” Bush said water fluctuation has a dramatic effect on fish who seek structure for spawning. In 2008 high water on Table Rock Lake held for the entire season creating the perfect habitat. “Largemouth bass, white bass and crappie relate well to cover,” he said. “We typically see in high water years like this the spawning rates being tremendous. During low water years we see bigger smallmouth bass numbers because they like to spawn in the rocks in deeper water.”
  2. Marsha and I enjoyed the event. Thanks Ryan for the drift boat ride and Brian for taking us down to the river Sunday... did better Sunday afternoon that we did Saturday. I think the water cleared up a bit. Food was great. Hope to make it next year...
  3. <!-- .Bold { font-weight: bold; } --> Eleven Point River Excursion Oct 17-18, 2009 Fly Flingers Weekend Phil & Marsha Lilley Our lives are blessedly filled to the brim -- Marsha and I both commit to activities together and apart with the resort, church, community endeavors and friends and family; together and separately we fish, write, manage websites, counsel (even work occasionally . . .) As with everyone else, we find that if we need or want to do something, we have to purpose to put it on the calendar. A full weekend of fishing is one of those things. But fishing isn't just "fishing," or "piscator non solum piscatur," as the Latin says it. We've made fishing part of our lives for the fellowship and fun, and not just for business. The development of our fishing website, OzarkAnglers, aims to educate people about God' creation and the gift it is to us. After being out on some incredible water for the past three days, I am reminded of that mission. God does leave evidence all around us of His existence, His touch, His love for us in all He's made. Oddly to say, this was our first time to visit the Eleven Point River. Living in the Ozarks for the past 26 years, it's sad to realize that we haven't ventured very far from our own waters to experience other beautiful fisheries in our own region. Brian Sloss and Ryan Griffin, owners of Eleven Point Canoe Rental for the past five years, host an annual event called Fly Flingers Weekend in October to give anglers an "excuse" to pack up and head to the river -- and make some money for Trout Unlimited at the same time. The guide/outfitters couldn't pick a better season to host a gathering -- foliage on the river was just starting to preview the spectacular autumn color ahead, and their burger/brats barbecue was a full feast to gather us around a fire for a cool fall evening. The Eleven Point River, one of the original eight rivers included in the Ozark National Scenic Riverways Act of 1968, stretches 44 miles from Thomasville to State Highway 142 near the Missouri-Arkansas state line. The Missouri Department of Conservation stocks about 16,000, 10- to 12-inch rainbows in the White Ribbon section and 5,000 rainbows in the Blue Ribbon section of the river once a year. The department clips their fins to mark which years each trout was stocked, distinguishing them from the wild trout that average 200 to 250 per mile. In 2007, agents clipped the left pelvic fin. Last year it was the right pelvic fin, and the adipost fin was clipped this season. We arrived Saturday morning early at the canoe livery to be greeted by Brian and Ryan and a small group of anglers ready to hit the water. The air was chilly with all the recently cloudy days, but it didn't dampen our excitement. Marsha and I had driven down to the Greer access Friday evening and saw that the river seemed to be in great shape. It was a little off color -- a kind of a chalky, whitish green color which is normal for rivers in south Missouri after a rain. Gladly, I thought it was very fishable. They had had heavy, flooding rains just 10 days prior. The worry was the river wouldn't be back down and clear enough for the weekend, but our fears were put to rest. Ryan had graciously offered a spot on their hand-built, wooden McKenzie drift boat for the morning float, so Marsha and I piled in at the ramp at Greer access off Missouri Highway 19, just a short drive from Alton in Oregon County. The group all launched from the same spot, a fleet of six canoes and one drift boat strong. Fishing started immediately -- and so did catching. Several nice rainbows came off the first island, but not by our boat. We floated on down to the next spot to wade what Ryan called the Grave Yard run, so named after an old, private family cemetary sequestered quietly back on the wooded hillside. That's where I caught my first Eleven Point rainbow. I had packed my five-weight, nine-foot Templefork fly rod loaded with Climax shooting line to try on the rivers. I use the technique known as "chuck and duck" on Michigan and Alaskan rivers and saw no reason it wouldn't work on Ozarks' rivers, as well. It's a rigging system that uses lead core weight to quickly drop the fly to the bottom, drifting it through the run naturally as opposed to using a float and then dealing with current drag. It worked for me -- and then it didn't. The rocks on the bottom of the Eleven Point River are not smooth but are porous and jagged, greedily grabbing hooks and weight. This made using this technique difficult, but not impossible. I did hang up a lot and lost quite a few flies and rigs but did manage to catch several rainbows. The other technique I wanted to try on the river was a rig I use in Alaska for rainbows and char. It's a bead, pegged above a bare hook. The beads I used were three millimeter in a peach-orange color. I pegged the bead (egg) two inches from the hook using a small toothpick. To our amazement, it caught rainbows! They liked it!! Rainbows on the Eleven Point normally spawn later in the winter, but it seems no matter where I fish, no matter the season, trout will take an egg. We floated and stopped at Ryan's spots, most of them were at the top and bottom of runs off islands, and there are delightfully many islands on this upper stretch of the river. The Eleven Point actually starts well above Greer access, but most notably, the water from Greer Spring joins the river above a half-mile above the access. Greer Spring is the second largest spring in Missouri behind Big Spring located at the confluence of the Current River. Its flow averages about 200 million gallons of water per day with an average water temperature of 50-55 degrees. The property is now owned by the National Parks Service. It maintains a parking lot at the trail head located off Highway 19 just south of the Geer access, as well as a wonderful woodland trail to hike about a mile to the spring. The spring has two exit points -- the first is a cave and the second, the larger of the two, is a vertical vent about 100 feet downstream. The newly formed river flows downstream about 1.4 miles to the Eleven Point where is almost doubles the river's size at that point. A drift boat has to be the most pleasant way to float a river, that is, of course, if you have a guide like Ryan who knows how to maneuver a drift boat -- definitely giving his muscles a work out Saturday just to give me a few more chances at prime water. It is different than a canoe for sure. Instead of rowing forward, most of the strokes in current are backwards for control and direction. A drift boat is constructed in a way so that it sits high on the water, creating less draft so that the slightest stroke with the oars will direct the boat in the desired direction with ease. The McKenzie drift boat was designed to run the rapids on the McKenzie River in Oregon back in the 1940s and has become renowned on rivers in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, which is where Brian learned its advantages to reach holes inaccessible by wading and better vantage points than by canoeing. As the day went on, it became apparent that the islands in the river harbored the key fishing spots. There are a surprising number of small and large island on this stretch of the river. Each side of the islands was navigable, fishable water. As we drifted by, Ryan would talk about how trout would hold at the top, in the runs and at the tail end of each island. Pockets and seams were important to note -- trout would hold in these areas, ambushing bugs and minnows as they drifted by. Pocket water is slack water behind rocks, ledges, logs and root wads, any place where the water slows down. You can usually see pocket water by the smoothness of the water's surface behind these structures. A seam is where fast current meets slow current or eddies. The water outside the fast current still moves pretty quickly but is still slower than the main current. There usually is a definitive line or break between these two currents that is clearly evident. Fishing these seams and pockets isn't easy, but it's not too difficult either. The first thing to reallize is that every cast and drift is not going to be perfect. That's why we always work these areas slowly and methodically, making a dozen casts to the same area at different entry points, with different angles of the line and swing until we get that perfect drift that puts the fly right in front of the trout to entice the take. In saying that, the right amount of weight, either incorporated in the fly itself or added to the line, is very important. On the Eleven Point, the guides use a fly called a MOAT which is a stone fly weighted by a large tungsten bead, one that will drop you down fast in fast water. They tie it in olive, brown and black. At least this past weekend, they also suggested using marabou jigs under a strike indicator four feet deep. Sixteenth-ounce jigs are best in olive, brown, black and white. The MOAT are thrown with an indicator also and set to the depth of the water. Of course, cast placement and mending will test your fly rod handling ability among the trees and rocks on the Eleven Point. Ryan said they do get hatches like any river in Missouri, but the trout don't seem to target the insects. He said they see big hex hatches in August and September, but even then their trout don't seem to take advantage of the easy meal. On our trip, we saw good hatches of caddis and other flies which I couldn't identify. There was a white-winged moth-type fly that was plentiful. We did see lots of lots of small minnows against the bank, in slack water and around root wads in the river. They are key to the health of a river. We floated from Greer to Turner, about a 4.9-mile section of river. It took us all of eight hours to make the trip, fishing at various spots along the way. I think it was the perfect distance for fishing, both to fish some spots from the boat and to get out and wade other areas. The next day, Brian took us in by foot through a little known and private access just below the Greer access. We waded and fished the Grave Yard shoal for about four hours into the evening with good success. Tito, a young man who works for Brian and Ryan, met us there, and between the three of us we brought a couple of dozen rainbows to hand. Brian used a white one-sixtheenth-ounce white jig under an indicator, Tito tried some of his own hand-tied stone and various other flies, and I stuck with my bead, drifting it through the runs out through the island and down from the island into a deeper run. Again, we saw caddis and white mayflies come off the water the whole time which tempted some small fish to rise against the banks. With the trees in budding colors and the sun peaking through at points, it was a wonderful two days on the Eleven Point River. Many thanks to Brian Sloss and Ryan Griffin for their guidance and help with outfitting our needs on and off the river -- and for their tireless efforts to endear visitors and Ozarkers to the national treasure shimmering wild through the hills. 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  4. 4 ppm is about all we can hope for though. That's the norm for fall.
  5. It's a flip camera. Shoots HD. Very easy to use. It's small and not easy to hold still though. Zoom is marginal. Doesn't do macro.
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  7. The long boat was different that a drift boat, but kinda the same. I loved the director chairs. Never once, while standing and fishing, did I tip the boat or felt like it was going to - surprisingly stable. Kyle paddled it like a drift boat, jumped out several times when going thru runs with big rocks and led the boat thru those areas. The low sides allowed him to get in and out easily- I was facing forwards but could not hardly feel him when he did jump out and back in- had to look. The pics above are of the same rainbow. Only caught the one really nice rainbow.
  8. Check out the flow data... it's somewhat high but "high" is a relative term. We drifted the river in a long boat, not a drift boat. Big difference. I'd think it would be floatable in a canoe almost anytime except during a low rainfall period which we are not in one.
  9. It'll have to be really heavy to get down.
  10. Vince told me this afternoon that the gates are not all the way off. Emailed Shane and he told me they'd slowed the flow from 20,000 cfs to 15,000, about 2100 cfs coming over the top now. He talked to COE and they said that SWPA has to get Table Rock down to 915 by December 1st (not sure why). If Table Rock gets down to 918, which it should by Thursday, they should resume "normal" generation and close the gates. Water temp is down and DO levels are staying above 4 pmm.
  11. Marsha and I had a very nice float trip with Kyle Kosovich of http://longboatoutfitters.com yesterday. Here are some pics of the trip - http://picasaweb.google.com/Lilleyslanding...WhiteRiver2009# I'll start working on an article of the trip tomorrow along with videos. I thought the water was perfect although I guess it was little high and off color. Saw no one on the river- had it all to ourselves. Trees are in peak colors. Perfect day. And the fish bit! Caught some on a tungsten beaded nymphs Kyle had in green - sorry I didn't get the name or a pic of the flies. Of course I had to try my shooting line and did fairly well. But my jigs were the biggest hit, landing several nice rainbows, 2 browns and a trophy rainbow on any body of water. Didn't measure it but well over 20 inches. These wild trout are amazing. I told Kyle our big rainbow looked just like the ones we catch in Alaska. Told Kyle he needed a bigger net!
  12. The gates shut down yesterday, leaving some, including me, to wonder if fishing was going to continue to be good. Reports this morning are that it is! Vince just came in and said his clients caught quite a few rainbows in the trophy area drifting both white jigs and scuds. He said there were even some rainbows midging on the shallow side of the lake. He's going back out this afternoon so I'll have more to report later. MDC, Shane Bush, was out this morning taking OD readings on the lake. He told Marsha that the levels were good.
  13. Just remember, FISHING above the cable will get you a ticket. Not just standing. That area is CLOSED to fishing.
  14. That's only reading turbines... it was 20,000 cfs while gates were opened, 6,000 cfs were flood gates.
  15. That's great news. But take in account that the gates were just closed yesterday so the decent may not be as fast as it has been. Throw in any water coming in from Beaver and take away the lack of flow from other sources and hopefully the level will be down close to power pool within a couple of weeks.
  16. According to the COE chart yesterday at noon.
  17. Just have to wait and see how fast Table Rock's level drop from here... with only turbines, not flood gates. I would guess 24/7 flow for at least 2 weeks, depending on rain fall.
  18. Yes- it's above the cable at outlet #3.
  19. Sounds like another Never-Ending-Story...
  20. I started laughing before I began to read this... I knew what was coming. Like the new avatar too...
  21. I've heard that they were going to shut it down the day before yesterday, yesterday and today... they may or they may not. But know this... once they shut the gates down, they hopefully will stay within their restricted flow and that's 125 mw, about 2.5 turbines. They will also have to inject liquid O2 to keep the levels above 4 pmm. Right now, at least below Fall Creek, the level is well over 6-8 pmm which is fantastic for the fish- that's why it's been so good. Once they shut it down, it might not be as good because of the drop in oxygen. So don't be so quick to wish for the gates to shut down. Yes the water is high and fast but as long as you get down to the bottom, you'll catch trout, as long as their biting. Yesterday was a slow day because the trout didn't bite as aggressively as they did the day before. That's fishing (catching). I'm not trying to discourage anyone not to head down and fish... but when the gates do shut down, it will be slower and shallower, water will go back to 50 degrees and the DO will drop. The trout may not like that for a day or two. But they may like it too!
  22. is 46 today!! Happy Birthday, Don!
  23. Jeremy- can you give us a fishing report? How are you catching fish and on what?
  24. Wow... I'm speechless. First, I will close this. Thought about deleting it but I like the initial post too much. It's a funny story about a guide having a bad day. Nothing wrong with it. Most everyone got a kick out of it. Again - take your personal stuff and put it in a PM. Keep it off the forum.
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