Phil Lilley

You think crappie? That would be where I'd think they are.

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PL FIRST LAST HOMETOWN ST # FISH WEIGHT 1 CURT GRAVES PARSONS KS 5 17.79 2 SHANE LONG SARCOXI MO 5 17.69 3 BILL BECK KIMBERLING CITY MO 5 16.42 4 TIM SAINATO WALNUT SHADE MO 5 15.10 5 BRYAN HOLLAND GRAVETTE AR 5 14.57 6 MARTY CONRAD CRANE MO 5 14.32 7 MIKE WEBB OZARK MO 5 14.23 8 RICK LAPOINT SPRINGFIELD MO 5 14.15 9 ANDRE DICKNEITE FREEBURG MO 5 14.13 10 DAVID BARKER HOLLISTER MO 5 14.12 11 CLYDE FREY KIMBERLING CITY MO 5 13.93 12 LUPE GARCIA SPRINGDALE AR 5 13.87 13 CASEY SCANLON LENEXA KS 5 13.68 14 TIM TAYLOR NIXA MO 5 13.43 15 SCOTT PAULEY HARTSBURG MO 5 13.38 16 PAT ADAMS ROGERS AR 5 13.16 17 MARC CZACHOWSKI SPOKANE MO 5 13.09 18 DWAYNE FRENCH MAMMOTH SPGS AR 5 12.89 19 BOBBY ALBERT SPRINGFIELD MO 5 12.75 20 KELLY POWER CAPE FAIR MO 5 12.35 21 MARK WIESE, JR. HIGH RIDGE MO 5 12.25 22 MARVIN WELLS CLAREMORE OK 5 11.62 23 MIKE SUTHERLAND AURORA MO 5 11.60 24 JACKIE DAVIS WILLARD MO 5 10.97 25 DWAYNE LUBY ST. PETERS MO 5 10.94 26 JOHN JACKSON MARIONVILLE MO 5 10.92 27 RICK SCARBERRY LAMAR MO 5 10.77 28 JIMMY DAVIS, JR WILLARD MO 5 10.68 29 RICH CAMPBELL WARRENSBURG MO 4 10.44 30 JAMES MILES BERRYVILLE AR 5 10.37 31 TADJEN PETERSON OLATHE KS 5 9.19 32 JOHN RAKESTRAW SHELL KNOB MO 4 8.96 33 PHILLIP STONE HARRISON AR 4 8.70 34 JIM BROWN TURPIN OK 4 8.46 35 JAMES GILZOW BELLA VISTA AR 3 6.86 36 MIKE WHITE WILLOW SPRINGS MO 3 6.40 37 RICH SEALS BENTONVILLE AR 2 4.91 38 JERRY WATSON ENERGY IL 2 4.62 39 TOM MASON NORWOOD MO 2 4.43 40 RANDY BARNES NIXA MO 2 3.77 41 LINDA REDFORD BLUE EYE MO 2 3.74 42 JEFF FARLEY OZARK MO 1 2.72 43 DAVE DONHAM HIGHLANDVILLE MO 0 0.00 44 SEAN GALLOWAY SAGINAW MI 0 0.00 45 VICTOR HAVELKA CORPUS CHRISTIE TX 0 0.00 46 ROBERT LANDRUM WICHITA KS 0 0.00 47 ROBERT ROBBINS BRANSON MO 0 0.00 48 TERRY THOMAS NIXA MO 0 0.00 BIG BASS CURT GRAVES 5.90 2ND BIG BASS SHANE LONG 5.41 AMATEUR DIVISION DAY 1 RESULTS PL FIRST LAST HOMETOWN ST # FISH WEIGHT 1 BILL DAVIS GREENWOOD MO 5 15.83 2 JOHN TAYLOR PACIFIC MO 5 13.19 3 JOEY PENZO SPRINGDALE AR 5 13.12 4 BRYAN TRACY ST. PETERS MO 5 12.90 5 MARK THIELE ST LOUIS MO 5 12.16 6 JD DUDLEY SPRINGDALE AR 5 12.15 7 SCOTT BURK ROGERS AR 5 11.11 8 CRAIG WARREN SPRINGFIELD MO 5 10.89 9 DAN MCGENNIS JONESBORO AR 5 10.87 10 CHRIS SYKES ROGERS AR 5 10.61 11 JOE BREEDLOVE ST. CLAIR MO 3 9.51 12 SCOTT STALLINGS GLENCOE OK 4 8.83 13 DON CARLSON ROGERSVILLE MO 4 8.45 14 BOBBY KING GENTRY AR 3 7.97 15 BILL HOFFERT COLUMBIA MO 3 6.48 16 RON DULLE JASPER AR 2 6.44 17 ZACH HAMPTON ST. CHARLES MO 3 6.34 18 JOHN HALEY BRANSON WEST MO 3 6.29 19 ELIJAH PAULSON JONESBORO AR 2 5.88 20 JOHN R. KURTH ATCHISON KS 2 5.31 21 BEN ROBERTS FORSYTH MO 1 5.25 22 SCOT FLOYD WENTZVILLE MO 2 4.23 23 BILL AMIS SHAWNEE KS 2 4.10 24 CHUCK BRAMWELL NIXA MO 2 3.88 25 CHRIS DUNLAP FORISTELL MO 1 3.20 26 BOBBY JONES WARR ACRES OK 1 3.01 27 JOHN KITE FESTUS MO 1 2.64 28 LARRY SALLIS FESTUS MO 1 2.01 29 BILL EDWARDS OZARK MO 1 1.96 30 MIKE MUELLER COLUMBIA MO 1 1.83 31 DAN ALTHISER STRAFFORD MO 0 0.00 32 JAMES BAKER CASSVILLE MO 0 0.00 33 ROBERT BAKER SHELL KNOB MO 0 0.00 34 TORRIS CASTON ST. LOUIS MO 0 0.00 35 TYLER DUNN SPRINGFIELD MO 0 0.00 36 DONNA GILZOW BELLA VISTA AR 0 0.00 37 KEVIN JOHNSON ROGERSVILLE MO 0 0.00 38 DAVID KELSEY INDEPENDENCE MO 0 0.00 39 RICK LATHAM ARNOLD MO 0 0.00 40 JON NICHOLS CASSVILLE MO 0 0.00 41 KEVIN STUHLMAN FLORISSANT MO 0 0.00 42 JASON TAYLOR PACIFIC MO 0 0.00 43 ROGER TILLMAN PEA RIDGE AR 0 0.00 BIG BASS BEN ROBERTS 5.25 2ND BIG BASS JOE BREEDLOVE 5.02

State Park, Gages, Chateau or Indian Point BUT are any of these marinas open? And will they open soon if not?

Who wrote this one?

Talked to Mr. Bill. He and 3 other guides had 100 keepers today between the four of them. Unbelievable. His clients weren't even fisherpeople. He said they mostly drug a carolina rig behind the boat. Talked to a friend fishing the Central Pro/Am. He said they caught a ton of bass on a grub up the White River Arm. Bill said Bill Beck is right at the top in the pro division. He thinks Beck will smoke the field tomorrow.

Finally- someone used the word in the proper context. Crappie - I think we're all having a good time at your expense. I wouldn't take it too hard. I've made a mess a time or two on this here forum. And that's all it is... just a forum. Heck, most of us don't even use our real names.

Crappie's going to have to change his name...

I fried up some fish last night and liked it so much I wanted to do it again tonight... wrong! I never do well when I AIM to go and catch dinner. Fished from 4:40 - 7 pm. Drifted a crawler from Fall Creek to Short Creek and caught one rainbow. Tried a red San Juan- nothing. Added a scud- nothing. Threw back the 12.5 inch rainbow and headed to Andy's. Drifted a sj and a scud under a float 10 feet deep with the fly rod- nothing. Drifted one more time with a spin- sj worm to past FC - nothing. Oh- sorry- I caught a rock. I saw guests cleaning fish just now as I came in. So someone is catching them today. I'd imagine they fished downstream. I didn't see anyone else catch.. but one trout the whole time I was out. Sorry- no pics of the rock. I tossed it.

I don't know... just wanted to do something different. Babler loves the drift rig. I'm lazy and just pinch a split shot 18 inches above the lure/bait when I drift. Need to perform an experiment and see which catches fish best. The rig makes more sense thought- but I'm lazy, like I said. The float- I didn't have a fly rod and wanted to see if I could fish with a float- so when I had my fly rod I could do the same thing. But read my report today... nothing worked very well- float or bottom bounce.

Had a great laugh.. first at crappie's post about the dead horse and then Bill's comment about the bone. Good ones... I sure like this forum too........

This statement is way over the top. Let's keep it respectable please. I think especially Al, and everyone else, has shown respect for each others beliefs in this discussion.

He calls me that all the time.

Crappie- why would you post this?? Bill contributes so much to this forum- for you and everybody else and you call him out on something like this? I think you better go back and read the post again. I think you read it wrong. Vulgar???? I'm very disappointed.

As I Christian, I am disappointed in "believers" who use religion to measure a man and his beliefs. They miss the point entirely. Christians arguing over theories like evolution and whether the Bible is the Word of God is so far from what we should be doing... discussing is quite different and I think this has been a good discussion but I think it's taking a turn I don't like. What Christians should be concerned about, in the context of their "religion" is the condition of our neighbor's heart, not what he believes about how the world began. They should be working to take care of the poor and down and out, the widows and orphans, not forcing their beliefs on others by preaching when they should be Christ's examples here on earth, examples in how they live. Even if Christians win every argument, very study and could say, "see I told you so!" would that really be a win in God's column or would just push unbelievers away further from God's love and much further from His people here in this life? I'm sad to say I agree with Al's points about Christians in general. For the most part, we've lost respect of people all over the world because we say one thing and do another. I'll let this topic continue as long as the discussion continues without malice... but if it heads south, I'll close it.

Wow- nobody has posted here today. That's a first. There aren't many boats out, at least not this evening. I boated to Andy's and made the long drift twice, using the technique I mentioned the other day... a float and a red San Juan 8 feet deep (with a small #3 split shot). Drift the shallow side and tried to keep it fairly close to the bank without getting into the snags. I caught 3 rainbows right off the bat and then nothing till I hit the flats at the narrows- then 3 or 4 more. Not sure what's going on in the mid section but it's pretty quiet. Twitched to the opposite side and drifted the shallow bar to the end of the island, just above Fall Creek. Caught several on this short stretch. I did throw an olive 1/8th oz jig and caught a couple but they didn't do that well. Fished behind the mentioned or slew across from FC looking for bass or crappie... you never know! But only caught rainbows again. There were some gars porpoising up there. They're still catching whites and walleye up at outlet #1. Had a couple come by and cleaned 2 whites and 2 walleye this evening.

I can't even keep the one here at the office going... they are a royal PAIN!! I don't like the camera I'm using- it's too narrow in scope. But they are expensive- and mine is down right now. I've had someone out twice to fix it and he's goofed up my wireless once and now the resort office's internet isn't working. I also hate NETWORKS!!

Yes- and jigs and cleos and power bait and... you get the idea. You can always catch trout on rapalas. Browns esp. They have been catching rainbows with a floating rapala on a drift rig below the dam but I don't use them myself cause they're too expensive to lose. I don't push them because you can do better with other lures for less money UNLESS you want to fish for browns and then I'd suggest stick baits.

I can't believe Bill shared this... this is GOLD! For pros fishing this weekend reading this - Merry Christmas!!!

FLYWATER ANGLING ADVENTURES Steve Hollensed Orvis Endorsed Fly Fishing Guide Federation of Fly Fishers Certified Casting Instructor 903.546.6237 Flywaterangling.com I am pleased to announce that another session of my WARMWATER FLYCASTING SCHOOL, will be held Friday, June 13 (evening only) and Saturday, June 14, 2008. (In the event of bad weather, June 27 and June 28 will be the alternate dates) With a major emphasis on improving casting distance, sharpening up casting accuracy, and with correcting problems that occur when targeting striped bass, largemouth bass, or redfish, this class is a must for fly anglers that frequent warmwater or saltwater environments. The school will consist of seminars on Friday evening in Sherman, TX from 6:00pm to 9:00 pm. Saturday will consist of casting instruction and guided practice on my private casting field near Tom Bean TX (about 10 miles southeast of Sherman) from 9:00am to 4:00pm. Topics covered Friday evening will be: Essentials and Principles of Good Casting Casting Styles and Self-Optimization Matching Fly Lines to Angling Objectives Strategies in Improving Your Cast Question and Answer Session Saturday morning will be geared toward 1) analysis of your current cast and 2) improving your foundational casting ability to provide the framework for improvement. Saturday afternoon will designed to develop special casts and advanced techniques as they apply to warmwater fishing. All of Saturday will be devoted to improving YOUR cast as you will receive plenty of personal attention and practice time to allow you to retain these skills when you get on the water. My goal is to see your cast improve so you can enjoy our great sport even more. Class size is limited to just 5 students. Cost is $150 per student and includes a BBQ meal on Friday evening and a lunch on Saturday. As an optional bonus, I am offering half day instructional guide trips on Lake Texoma, which will serve as "on the water" extensions of the class. Rates are $225 for 1 or 2 students (discounted from the normal rate of $275). This rate is only offered to students who have completed the class and must be taken within 30 days of the school. The half day trips may be morning or afternoon blocks, as preferred. (Notice the value in this offer. If two students in the class book the optional half day guide trip for two, and split the cost of the guide trip, then the total cost for an evening and a day of casting instruction, plus an instructional guide trip is only $262.50 per person!) The first five students who register by contacting me, will be placed in the school. This will be secured by full payment within seven days of registration. The first students to register will have first pick of dates for the optional instructional guide trips. Warmwater fly fishing is fun, exciting, and a rewarding brand of fly fishing, but it does have its challenges. Don't let your casting hold you back. Learn to cast better and enjoy fly fishing in places and conditions you never thought possible before. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Steve

If they're running more than 2 units you should be able to go right up the middle of the lake. To be safe, stay on the bluff-side of middle. Lures- jigs and flies. Red San Juan is absolutely a killer right now. Also #10 gray scuds.

Thanks... I am awful with names. I get brain freezes, lock down when it comes to names. I'll try to remember Dick's name next time I see him. He's a great guy.

That's what it looks like for now. They aren't running much out thru Taney right now.

Boated to the dam about 3 pm today to see what I could see. Pull up to the corner on the south side at the cable to tie a jig on - 1/8th oz olive/sculpin. Caught a dozen rainbows all 15 inch plus and thick. A couple I thought were white bass before getting them to the surface they were so wide bodied. Had a couple that would go 18 inches. Crossed the lake and talked to a guy on the bank fishing a jig... he's one of the creel checkers for MDC. I need to get his name- it's terrible to refer to someone and not know his name. He's caught a bunch of walleye and smallmouth the last few weeks. He'd caught one walleye and caught a small mouth as we were talking. I didn't do as well. Drifted out and down. Tied a red San Juan on with a small #7 split shot to get it down and a float which I set at 8 feet deep. They ate it up. Drifted down the north side to the ramp and then crossed over to the gravel flat to the KOA. Caught a dozen very very nice rainbows... one jumped 5 times- great fighters. Started again at Andy's and caught a couple but that stretch isn't producing like it was a couple of weeks ago. Didn't have much time to try as many flies/techniques as I wanted. Seemed like they are hungry... Since the boards are down at Powersite, the water is different. Flow is the same but the level is lower. As you get down in our area and even further down you'll see a difference in the depth. You might have to watch for bars you would otherwise not have to watch for. Water is still stained. I can see the bottom is 3 feet of water- barely. at the cable... not a great pic but this rainbow is 18 inches and very thick. I could barely get my hand around him. This was my jumper. Not real long but very colorful. Hooked it in the shoot just above KOA on the north bank. This a great spot- almost one fish on every drift though. Can't get too close to the trees though cause there's still come grass there.

How hard is it to find the "right" water around the dam? "set the boat in 20 feet and throw to the bank". Most banks in normal times fit this description around the dam... but with the water this high, is it that hard to find fishable banks? Other places? Guess what I'm asking is if the novice can go out and find some of these fish? How's the knees?