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Very nice - welcome to OAF. Hope you post often, especially this winter when everyone will itchin' to go fishin'. You may get some business!
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I'm not going to change anything... just thought I'd throw it out for discussion.
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Finally had a night that I could afford to stay up late and fish. Last night I got to the parking lot at 9:30 p.m. to join 2 other cars there. One guy was fishing outlet #2 and the other down at Big Hole. I could see at least one light up at outlet #1. It was dark... no moon. Nothing was active on the surface. They had run a little water earlier and the water wasn't dropped out all the way, but close. Not much current. I waded it above outlet #2 and stripped a Pine Squirrel, sculpin and a leach. Nothing. Moved down below outlet #2. Fish started to rise a little. No bites. Moved down to below Rebar. Whoever was down there had left so had it to myself. Fish were a bit more active in the shallows and in the deeper water. I started getting bit. Very short pulls with no hookups. Then they got more aggressive. I discovered they like a long, slow pull with a quick, short jerk at the end. I was throwing down lake at a 45 degree angle and it was swinging down from there. They were hitting it at all points of the retrieve. Ended up with 4 small rainbows to hand. They came on a #8 purple Purple Squirrel with a small cone head. The rainbows came in limp--very little fight, a sign of very little O2 in the water. Night time is the worse for them with no new water entering from the dam - only from the outlets - and no sun or wind to add O2 to the water. But all 4 swam off ok. I was using 4x tippet so I didn't play them at all. Didn't take them out of the water. Walking back, I had my light out looking at the bottom and the rocks. Saw a few sculpin - good sign. Then I saw some rocks with plantan covering them. I tried to take a pic - they didn't turn out real well but you can see how many there were. I continued to inspect the gravel, turning over small rocks. Lots and lots of small scuds and sow bugs along with more small worms. Most of the bugs were #18 and smaller. Another very good sign.
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I could make it so that no one could see any forums unless they registered... other forums do that. Just been reluctant to because some people would/may have trouble with it.
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If you're talking about Taneycomo, you should post in that forum. You'll get more response.
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I understand where you're coming from... Are you wanting to regulate this somehow? Lurkers could be anglers who are trying to learn how to catch - beginners - and they won't have anything to contribute. I guess what I don't want to see is members being tagged as lurkers and belittled in chat or on the forum.
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I was going to see how many were in chat - did anyone notice the number? Limit is 50. Did it exceed 50?
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Yea- there's issues with other forums not showing up. I've posted it on the support IPB forum and other forum owners are having the same issue. I'm sure IPB will address it in the next update which should be any day.
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Oh yes- that's who they're not eating powerbait!
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See them fairly often. They show up about anywhere.
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I went to the support forum and posted a topic. Right now the forum is full of people having issues with this new upgrade. Ours are minor compared to some of the ones I'm seeing. My guess this will be addresses in the next upgrade which I bet is this week sometime.
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Note the orange in the swimming scud - and how he propels himself through the water. If these guys are swimming all over the lake, one has to reconsider how to present a scud.
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November 1, 2015 First video, my latest, clearly shows scuds swimming from the bank to the dock under and through vegetation, holding to the dock flotation and sitting on a pump. Note the clear orange coloration of some of the scuds. And the propulsion of the one swimming. Cream Midge. Small Snails. October 24, 2015 June 9, 2015 Bugs in the gravel.
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Spence is a good friend so I was thrilled to see and read this article about him. Anglers owe a lot to this man. http://owaa.org/owaa-legends/spencer-e-turner-iron-man-in-chest-waders/
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This is going to be a tough fishing report for me to write because trout fishing on Lake Taneycomo is pretty slow, except if you're fly fishing below the dam while the water is off. Then it's pretty good. There has been no generation during the day except in the evenings when dam operators might run a little "fish water" -- about 30 megawatts or a half-unit for a few hours. But this amount varies. Weekends it seems they're not running any at all. Oxygen levels continue to be very low, especially below the dam. The Department of Conservation has issued a warning about handling trout if the fish are to be released. The stress a good fight puts on a trout, especially a larger trout, can be deadly even without proper handling. Keeping a fish out of the water for any extended time lessens the chance of survival. If a trout is foul hooked, it's extremely hard to land it using light line. This, again, puts undo stress on a fish in these type of conditions and can kill it. You might think that it's almost impossible to foul hook a trout, but this time of year in the hatchery outlet flows, dozens of trout crowd a small stream of water, and drifting one or two flies through this group does greatly increase your chance to hook a fin or tail. If you choose to fish these outlets, you should be ready to break off your flies in order to not harm these fish if you foul hook a trout. Please don't fight it to death -- literally. So in reporting on fly fishing below the dam, yes, the outlets are full of fish, but there are so many more in all areas. The Rebar has rainbows and a few browns holding at the head, in the flow and out the tail of the flow. They are taking scuds mainly but also egg flies and San Juan worms. Between outlets one and two, rainbows are taking soft hackles and cracklebacks stripped close to the surface. Also strip pine squirrels and sculpins there as well as below outlet #2 and below Rebar. Down towards the boat ramp, fish a Zebra Midge under an indicator 12-to 24- inches deep. Night fly fishing below the dam has been pretty good. David Doty, Duane's brother, came down from St Louis with his wife Terry and his sister Jen, and they caught some nice trout on a variety of flies using glow stick indicators. David caught this nice 23-inch brown stripping a pine squirrel while the women caught some nice rainbow on scuds. Below Lookout, throw a 1/16th-ounce jigs using two-pound line straight, no float. Work them off the bottom in the channel as well as off the channel on the flats. Dark colors have been working best for me - scuplin, olive, brown and black. Using two-pound line is crucial because you can't really throw a 1/6th-ounce jig using four-pound line. Working a scud under an indicator has been working fairly well. It's best to fish if there's a choppy surface in the middle of the lake and up on the flats. I'm starting to use 7x tippet because I'm having a hard time getting bit. Not sure if the 7x helps, though, so you might want to start with 6x. The flat just above Fall Creek has had a lot of rainbows on it. They have taken a soft hackle stripped as well as a scud crawled around the bottom. I talked to some guys who went spotlight gigging for suckers last night. They said there's a ton of trout in the area down from the mouth of Fall Creek, and not as many suckers. I fly fished up there today, and I did see some good fish working midges, but I couldn't get them to take anything! Some people fishing off the bank caught several rainbows on night crawlers. I boated up to a half-mile below Fall Creek yesterday and fished night crawlers. I don't do that very often - mainly when the grandkids are down and I take them out. But I had to see just how tough fishing really was. I know if they're biting, I can catch them on crawlers. I used two-pound line and a small #3/0 split shot 12 inches above the worm. I used a half worm and shot some air in it to make it float. I ended up using six worms and missed hooking two bites, catching one. The other three trout I never saw or felt bite -- they just ate their worm without me even knowing it. That was in a two-hour time period. That's pretty slow in my book. Granted, I was throwing other things and not watching my bait rod as I should have been. Some anglers just come in from fishing this afternoon with their limits of rainbows. They said they boated down to Roark Creek and fished Powerbait up in the mouth. Fishing was sporadic, they said, but the did pretty well.
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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, October 31
Phil Lilley commented on Phil Lilley's article in Taneycomo fishing reports
DD - I read the FB post wrong... That shows how mindless I can be when writing - because I knew that was his wife. I'll change it -
What would that link be?
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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, October 31
Phil Lilley posted a article in Taneycomo fishing reports
This is going to be a tough fishing report for me to write because trout fishing on Lake Taneycomo is pretty slow, except if you're fly fishing below the dam while the water is off. Then it's pretty good. There has been no generation during the day except in the evenings when dam operators might run a little "fish water" -- about 30 megawatts or a half-unit for a few hours. But this amount varies. Weekends it seems they're not running any at all. Oxygen levels continue to be very low, especially below the dam. The Department of Conservation has issued a warning about handling trout if the fish are to be released. The stress a good fight puts on a trout, especially a larger trout, can be deadly even without proper handling. Keeping a fish out of the water for any extended time lessens the chance of survival. If a trout is foul hooked, it's extremely hard to land it using light line. This, again, puts undo stress on a fish in these type of conditions and can kill it. You might think that it's almost impossible to foul hook a trout, but this time of year in the hatchery outlet flows, dozens of trout crowd a small stream of water, and drifting one or two flies through this group does greatly increase your chance to hook a fin or tail. If you choose to fish these outlets, you should be ready to break off your flies in order to not harm these fish if you foul hook a trout. Please don't fight it to death -- literally. So in reporting on fly fishing below the dam, yes, the outlets are full of fish, but there are so many more in all areas. The Rebar has rainbows and a few browns holding at the head, in the flow and out the tail of the flow. They are taking scuds mainly but also egg flies and San Juan worms. Between outlets one and two, rainbows are taking soft hackles and cracklebacks stripped close to the surface. Also strip pine squirrels and sculpins there as well as below outlet #2 and below Rebar. Down towards the boat ramp, fish a Zebra Midge under an indicator 12-to 24- inches deep. Night fly fishing below the dam has been pretty good. David Doty, Duane's brother, came down from St Louis with his wife Terry and his sister Jen, and they caught some nice trout on a variety of flies using glow stick indicators. David caught this nice 23-inch brown stripping a pine squirrel while the women caught some nice rainbow on scuds. Below Lookout, throw a 1/16th-ounce jigs using two-pound line straight, no float. Work them off the bottom in the channel as well as off the channel on the flats. Dark colors have been working best for me - scuplin, olive, brown and black. Using two-pound line is crucial because you can't really throw a 1/6th-ounce jig using four-pound line. Working a scud under an indicator has been working fairly well. It's best to fish if there's a choppy surface in the middle of the lake and up on the flats. I'm starting to use 7x tippet because I'm having a hard time getting bit. Not sure if the 7x helps, though, so you might want to start with 6x. The flat just above Fall Creek has had a lot of rainbows on it. They have taken a soft hackle stripped as well as a scud crawled around the bottom. I talked to some guys who went spotlight gigging for suckers last night. They said there's a ton of trout in the area down from the mouth of Fall Creek, and not as many suckers. I fly fished up there today, and I did see some good fish working midges, but I couldn't get them to take anything! Some people fishing off the bank caught several rainbows on night crawlers. I boated up to a half-mile below Fall Creek yesterday and fished night crawlers. I don't do that very often - mainly when the grandkids are down and I take them out. But I had to see just how tough fishing really was. I know if they're biting, I can catch them on crawlers. I used two-pound line and a small #3/0 split shot 12 inches above the worm. I used a half worm and shot some air in it to make it float. I ended up using six worms and missed hooking two bites, catching one. The other three trout I never saw or felt bite -- they just ate their worm without me even knowing it. That was in a two-hour time period. That's pretty slow in my book. Granted, I was throwing other things and not watching my bait rod as I should have been. Some anglers just come in from fishing this afternoon with their limits of rainbows. They said they boated down to Roark Creek and fished Powerbait up in the mouth. Fishing was sporadic, they said, but the did pretty well. -
Is that state? What is federal now? I don't know anything about duck stamps since I don't duck hunt. That does sound ridiculous.
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MDC pays a company in Tennessee to handle selling their licenses. It's outsourced except online sales - but even online sales may be handled by a company other than MDC - I don't know. So I don't know if it's 25 cents per license or not... I know a vendor gets 2.5% for selling licenses. Cutting out the license machines, printers, paper and trouble shooting (what the company in Tenn. does) probably saves MDC quite a bit of money. And like I said, other states have been selling online for years. Not disagreeing with you, just pointing out what I think are the facts.
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Reeling and healing Fall 2015
Phil Lilley replied to BilletHead's topic in General Angling Discussion
He's a treat! He's been an instructor for a long time. Thanks.
