Phil Lilley

I told Brian he was the hand of God yesterday. No one else could have called inside the powerhouse- I don't even keep that number in my phone. But because he has called, made friends with the people in the powerhouse over the years, he and he alone had the number and knew who to call. It would have taken him 10 minutes to drive to the other side of the lake and even then, might not had gotten to the powerhouse to tell the controller. He could have signaled them by using the emergency phone at outlet number two but even then, it might have been too late. Few of us are given second chances. Clearly, this angler was given one. If anyone else would have been in Brian's place, that guy would have been dead today. Give Brian a deserving pat on the back... give God the glory for another day because everyday is a gift from Him.

Got out after 5 pm this evening but more of that later.This weekend's fishing was really good. Friday was excellent fishing, whether you were using bait or lures. Fished in the old RiverLake area using a ginger 1/8th oz jig and working it off the bottom- caught some REAL nice rainbows, they looked like they came from be low the dam. Clients caught lots of rainbows off the dock, even today fishing was real good. Night crawlers were the ticket today I was told.This evening, they ran one units for a couple hours, dropping about starting about 6:30 pm till dark. I started at the Rebar Hole and threw my jigs down to Lookout without much success. Saw Carolyn Parker with some gals fishing across from the boat ramp and they were catching fish ok. Having may too much fun. "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"> When I got below Lookout, I switched to a micro jig, tan, under a float 5 feet. Man I had a good time! Caught rainbows all the way down to the narrows without a pause. Stayed in the middle and tried to fish the drop off. From 11 to 18 inches. Broke the jig off at the end so tied on a #16 red zebra and kept on catching. "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"> "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"> "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360">

Nope- guides only contribute a fraction, very small fraction of what is shared here. That was another one of my points. Probably should have PM'ed you... sorry about that.

A mature forum is always going to have bitching and moaning, disagreements and even hard feelings. Cause we're all different and in the population there's all kinds of personalities. Over the years, people have come and gone for varying reasons. Some come back, others don't. But if they want good fishing info for Table Rock, they'll come back cause there isn't any other place like this. That doesn't mean someone can't go and start another forum. That's fine. I hope them all the best. OAF isn't just Table Rock. I'm so thrilled we have other waters doing so well. It's also seasonal. But I have to admit, happily that the Table Rock's success is directly related to guides posting reports and helping anglers with info on the lake. If we had guides from LOZ, it would be hoppin' too.

The Table Rock forum here on OAF is the best forum and source of fishing information anywhere on the net, anywhere in any form of public media, free or not. And the guides and others who fish the lake alot make it so. There's no doubt about that. But no one on the board can be thin skinned. If they are, they won't last - on this forum or any other. If someone gets offended by what has been said here the last few days or week and want not to post anymore, I can't do anything about it, and no one else can either. If someone is thin skinned and can't take criticism or for that matter, a "troll" every once in a while, then sooner or later they will be gone, if not now, later. That's it, plain and simple. In this or any other public arena, you're gonna get mud thrown at you. The goods one will always have those who stick up for ya... that's the proof in the pudding if you're doing a good job. And there's plenty sticking up here, including me. I just won't use my ultimate power to stop it unless it gets real ugly.... or long, ongoing, stupid, boring, or as Trav used to post... a dead horse.

Ok... by that definition he's a troll. He has the potential to do more but that's up to him. fishinwrench - you're over the top and it is obvious that you don't care if you tick the guides off, or anyone else. I see you're on Lake of the Ozarks and that may speak to your indifference to the Table Rock forum. Coldwaterfisher spoke tongue and cheek but you are taking it pretty far, saying they are giving bad or even lying about where they're fishing. I think you need to cool your jets.

Just saw this post. I assume you have an ear to the guides or you wouldn't be saying it. So because of one guy the board is taking a turn. Because of one guy, guides on Table Rock won't post here anymore? I honestly don't understand their beef. Why do they post advise, reports? What is the motivation? For business? For fun? Just to be a nice guy? For respect? For notoriety? Why does anyone post? Because they love fishing. Love to fish. coldwter has been on the forum since the beginning, or close to it. He's not a troll. But I do see your point that he isn't a contributor to the forum. I wish he was. He has alot to offer I believe. At this point, I could delete post, delete topics, close topics. But not sure if it's going to appease the situation. We'll see where it goes from here.

While in a boat, you do need to be careful not to transport rainbows from below to above Fall Creek. If they are in the slot, you'll get in trouble. But if you clean your fish (below) and drive to the dam and keep them in your car/cooler, you're ok.

You guys can organize any gathering you want to... you don't need me to sanction it. Although I'd back you 100% and attend if I can. Just need someone to get it going and make arraignments if needed. The one thing I've found though it to make it far enough in advance to allow people to schedule it. At least a month out.

Wonderful weather- barely got above 80. Very little wind which didn't help. No generation until about 2:30 this afternoon. Had 18 teams in the tournament. Several from out of town but most from Branson PD and Fire departments. Here are the results: 8 trout, 2 man teams 1. Frank Dielt, John Hittler -- 10.40 2. Bob Allen, Mary Hill -- 8.94 (Allen big trout - 2.30) 3. Carl Manske, Ken Devosha -- 8.30 4. Jeff Alley, John Alley -- 8.08 5. Chris Martin, Clay Goforth -- 8.04 6. Tom Burckhardt, Corey -- 7.66 7. Bob Dwiggins, Bill Fresie - 7.34 8. Bryan Miller, John Pate -- 7.00 9. Gerry Dwiggins, Bruce Wucher -- 6.90 10. Jason Webb, Randy Cole -- 6.44 11. Bruce Johnson, Jay Scribner -- 6.14 12. Carol McCullough, Carl Sparks -- 5.30 13. Kenneth Hull, James Sharp -- 5.20 14. Kelly Stammer, Rick Weidert -- 5.08 15. Kory Klein, Bob Klein -- 5.04 16. Darryll Hembree, Jake Hembree -- 4.90 17. Kenny Marshall, Jerry Whitworth -- 4.34 18. ------

We've had this conversation many times... so I'll nip it in the bud. In Parks, you can't keep fishing after you catch your limit of trout. In all other waters, you can keep fishing after you catch and keep your limit of trout. It's been confirmed by MDC, agents and regional enforcement office.

There is a vaccination you can take for Lymes but it's expensive and I HATE SHOTS. If you're in the woods alot, you might consider it.

Did you call the Corp? I'll call Jeremy Rasnick. I think that's his territory.

Jim Callahan 5.14 lb 22.25 inch girth Brown Power Bait Pellets

Chance pretty much nailed it. John Berry just posted a report on the White. Hope they leave the water off for ya... it's raining quite a lot tonight, not sure what it's going to do to lake levels.

My friends in SE Kansas don't know what the doves will do. Lots of them there but the cool weather may push them south by Tuesday. MDC is probably thinking the same, not wanting to guess what it will be like. But seems there are alot of doves to shoot. Never hunted down here. Would be nice not to drive 3 hours. But the doves in SE Kansas are thick usually.

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I've performed this a dozen times here at the resort and it's worked every time. Had one close to the eye which I referred to the ER. I think it's great!! Not the getting hooked part.

Oh... just got back in town. Talked to Dennis and he told me it was getting heated here. Had to laugh when he told me what Paul posted. Guys, if you post something that you know will be controversial, don't get bent out of shape when it comes. It's like you're walking on egg shells. I'm not taking sides... this is an open discussion and if someone pokes fun, take it at that. Coldwater... is Paul. I knew Paul from the old Conservation Cafe. And I've PM'ed him several times here. We're supposed to go fishing... hope to soon. All I'm going to say is roll with some of this. If you don't, then life is no fun. OUVP is overkill, agreed. But some of the stuff that goes with it like insurance, drug testing (I've been tested twice this year) and first aide are good things. If you take any fishing anyplace and he gets hurt, you better hope you do have insurance because if you don't, you'll lose everything you own. I'll close it down again.

You guys should have taught Bill to take pics and POSt them on the forum... God knows I've tried and failed. Thank goodness some of Bill's clients post pics from his trips - proof he really does fish occasionally.

Wrote someone at the REC, USCG St Louis. See what response I get.

White River below BS dam is exempt, for some crazy reason. I'd think the training and test speaks to river situations more than a lake. The training for Alaska Waters was very enjoyable- I learned alot... much more than I did for the Limited White River OUVP.

What's it take to be a sponsor?

The Operator of Uninspected Passenger Vessels (OUPV) license is commonly called a six-pack or charter captain's license. This Coast Guard license is required by those operating uninspected vessels (not required to undergo inspections by the Coast Guard) that carry no more than six passengers for hire. It will NOT allow you to operate inspected vessels or carry more than six passengers for hire. Eligibility Requirements USCG Application Age: 18 years old Sea Experience: OUPV Inland 360 days* operating a small vessel 90 days of the 360 must be within the last 3 years. The documents and completed forms you will need to suppy with the OUPV application include: Coast Guard Application Form (CG-719B) Sea Service Form (CG-719S) Physical Examination Report (CG-719K) Drug Test Report (5 Substance SAMSHA -- CG-719-P) Three Character References Social Security Card Proof of Citizenship First Aid/CPR Certification Training Certificate

Took the girls fishing this afternoon. Justice, Savannah and Haley, my 3 nieces. Giggles and squeals but these girls didn't mind handling worms or the fish. Fished just above Short Creek, air inflated night crawlers. And they were hungry! I had trouble keeping up with hooks and worms. And then I wanted to video some of the action. Here they are - "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"> "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"> "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"> "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360">