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Water is about 18 inches over our road in the back. It's a good 5 feet short of our lower units but we moved everything out just in case. We took a boat ride about an hour after they kicked on 5 more gates. People on the observation hill were clicking pics at us... funny tourist. I didn't get one of the gates... absent minded. But got some good video. Docks are holding up pretty good. Some are twisting and turning and tipping in the water a bit. If one goes in a line, they all will. Keep an eye on the web cam- you might see one go by. Here's some pics. The last 2 images were taken this morning by Wily. My internet is real slow right now- images are still being uploaded.
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http://ozarkanglers.com/index.php?option=c...&Itemid=102 Have to view it using Internet Explorer
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5 more gates just opened at Table Rock. 20,000 to 30,000 cfs released. Not here at our dock yet. We'll see. Watch the cam.
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Clay- saw you in BP yesterday but didn't know it was you till you left. Level is dropping out here but... it's short-lived. Got a pretty good tip that Beaver will double cfs this afternoon because what they are releasing now isn't keeping up. When they do that, TR will double its cfs. More rain this afternoon and now they're saying tornadoes.
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http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/WCDS/Repo...Data/Beaver.htm At 3 am, Beaver Dam started releasing more than 8000 cfs, more than doubling it's output. Table Rock has only risen 9 inches but that's not real time. It has to be shooting up at any time. Our level at the resort has risen about 2-3 feet but it's from back flooding and not increase release from Table Rock. Bull Shoals has risen 12 inches in 24 hours but that's about what it's been doing. We have another 4-5 hours of rain it looks like according to the radar. It doesn't look good. I'll tilt the webcam or move it so that it shows the water level better later this morning.
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http://www.footstepsofmessiah.com/Movie.swf
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2,000 HP Outboard Inflatable .. Here's the latest drug runner toy from Europe This thing belts across the English channel 3 times per week and was just a bluron the radar ofthe British Coast Guard.They were so astonished by the speed of the unknown craft, they brought in a special high speed helicopter to chase it. Drugs were found on board of course, you'd have to be on drugs to put the throttle down on this rig.
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Mr Babler, J.L. (SKMO) arrived at an access just south of the MO border... Bill can tell you what the access name is. The lake was backed up about a mile up from this point and that's where we headed. Saw 2 other boats all evening- one down from the ramp and one up. The guy up was trolling something and catching fish. We found out later he caught his limit of whites and one big walleye. We ended up catching alot of whites, all males and mostly small. We kept 24 one-pounders- good eaters. Mostly on white swimming minnows, white or purple jig and a few on other colors of sm's. Found them in slack water off current. Water temp 53, green, dingy water. Great fishing!! Left at dark at the first crack of lightning.
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Had guys go out today and did pretty good. Most went to the dam and drifted. Some of the guides reported lots of shad in the water coming over the flood gates. The trout weren't taking white anything so they drifted red san juans and scuds and did very well. With this info, I sent some guys out this afternoon with the latter flies. They had a great afternoon yesterday on white jigs and rabbit leaches but I told them about the shad "problem" so they said they would try them. The reported to me this evening they did good on all the above- some catching some of the largest rainbows of their angling lives. Cool!
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In saying all that, TR's level is now 726.6. It has dropped 8 inches just today so it's on the way down fast. BUT with the rains now and tonight and tomorrow, it will head back up, but how much is yet to be seen. Following this thought, the same thing will happen on Bull Shoals and at Bull Shoals Dam, as well as Norfork. The Corp will not release additional water until they have to- when the lake gets to the top of the flood pool. I'm sure there's exceptions to the rule but one thing is for sure- when BS's level reaches the top of the pool, and it will very soon, Bull Shoals Dam will not be a dam anymore, it will be a spillway, unable to control its flow. Another scary thought- BS's watershed will change from it's normal area to the whole White River Water Basin because at that time, all the dams in the chain will be spilling their water thru the whole system. Now you see the potential full impact of this event.
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They will only open the dam to the north (or the auxillery) dam if Beaver Dam breaks. Now this is new news, for me anyhow. I've been miffed at the Corp why they've kept Beaver Lake's level right at the top of the flood gate or flood pool. As some are saying, the waves are lapping over the top of the flood gates. Now I understand. Beaver is the first in the chain of lakes. They are letting just enough water out of Beaver to keep the level where it is. It's acting as a spillway essentially. They will do the same thing with Table Rock. This revelation came as a news article in a paper tonight. They won't let any more water out of Table Rock UNTIL it's level reaches 931 or the top of the flood gate. Then they will let out enough water so as to not let the water spill over the top of the gates. Again- the floods gates will act as a spillway. The water they will let through will match the water running into Table Rock. That's why they have no idea how much or how high it will go.
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Yes it would be in the parking lot and shelter I would think. We're pulling boats out because our dock is the only thing that will be affected by this event. I have no idea what higher and faster water will do to our dock so why take the chance? We won't be letting any boats out anyhow thru this. You're in a completely different situation down there. Your water level won't rise much at all. Thanks Don.
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The powers that be in Taney County met with the Corp this afternoon. The Corp advised that IF the current predictions of 4-6 inches of additional rain occur tomorrow night and Thursday, they will open the flood gates at Table Rock Dam further. Worse case scenario is an unknown as far as exact water levels. Western Taney County Fire personnel came by this evening and met with us and gave us the news. He gave us the following details: Presently releasing 20,000 cfs. Lake level at the dam is 713.1 and 702.2 at Powersite Dam (lower lake). In 1961, the Corp released 30,000 cfs, the most ever released from TRD. That raised the level of the tailwater to 717.0- an increase of 4 feet. Worse case at this point, it is reported, is set at 60,000 cfs. They are guessing that could mean 10 feet more water or 727 feet, but that's only a guess. What that level would be here is questionable. Ten feet more water would not get into any of our units but barely. We know that water will spread out before it gets here. Not sure what it would do to our dock. We are going to start pulling our boats out first thing in the morning. The Corp doesn't do anything in related to a prediction. They won't release more water today in anticiaption of rain tomorrow. When it happens, they will release water. There will be no warning. We have had all the warning we're going to get. Some residents on the Hollister side, uplake, have already evacuated including a gal that works for us. What this does to Bull Shoals- it's your guess. I've been saying for a week now that something is going to have to happen down there. There's just too much water and more is coming. If I had a place below BSD I'd be making preparations tomorrow!! To our guests who have reservations... we will not hold anyone to deposits or penalties for cancellation but I wouldn't act too quickly. We've all seen these rains pass us by untouched. But it's up to you. Pray for us and all other affected by this event. It's all just "stuff" unless someone really gets hurt. And please don't ask what it will do to the fishing... The trout will be fine. They won't get washed away. Probably will find lots more to eat out of all this. I'm sure it'll be good but I don't think you'll see us fishing too much IF IT HAPPENS AT ALL.
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Goggleye bite in June on grubs- great to put clients on when bass are slow and good to eat. Buster will kill me if he finds out I gave up his spot... but I did it last year too so... there.
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No I didn't. Send them again please.
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The Corp must have a direct line to God or a great meteorologist because what if Norfork's watershed get another rain like the one 3 weeks ago or even a fraction of it? What if they get so much water they can't control the flow? I would think holding that small of margin would be playing russian roulette with the properties below the dam, wouldn't it? They're doing the same with Beaver Lake. Will they do the same with Bull Shoals too?
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Spoken by a true bass fisherman. It's stained but clearing. It really is a great color to fish right now.
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They watch Swan closely mainly because Buck lives just over the hill, our Taney agent. That's why Jeremy double checked before keeping a few walleye the other day- to make sure he was legal. On keeping walleye when there's whites... well I think walleye taste alittle better than whites but there's alot of people who will swear they are 100 times better so you may have an argument on your hands. Up until a couple of decades ago, white bass were considered trash fish in neighboring states and were thrown on the banks when caught. My how taste buds change!!
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Docks I'd say. LOZ is a big dock lake.
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Oh you're on our goggleye banks!!
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Better enjoy it while you can. Water level on BS is rising 12 per day with 8 feet left in the flood pool. Plus with rains today and Thursday, it will push it to the limit quicker. I wonder how close the Corp will let the level get to the top before releasing?
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Mike- have you lost your mind!!!! Al, bowlers bowl every week, most twice a week- every week. Most anglers fish, what, 2-3 times a year? I'd say a good percentage of our guests, esp in the summer, only fishing once a year and that's when they're here.
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Lots of choices this afternoon. Table Rock Dam area and looking for whites in the back of coves, ie denjac's report this morning; great report from Beaver Creek but putting a boat in and the extra 20 minutes on the road... or Swan Creek where we felt like we had the best chance to catch some whites IF we could put in. Not sure if I can give the directions to the place where we did put in but it was the road that's flooded that runs along the creek from Shadow Rock Motel- from the other direction. You get there by going up the hill at Shadow Rock thru the housing addition. Not the easiest but it worked. No one else used it tonight. Ran up past the bridge plus another 1/2 mile. Lots of debry in the water on the way up. There's a road upstream- that's where the creek met the lake and the current started. Gin clear water. Saw quite a few species of fish in the water when we got up there. Shad, buffalo, walleye, whites... At 6:30 pm the sun was still up and the whites weren't cooperating. Wasn't till closer to 7 did they start chasing our baits. We caught whites from the bluff on the left down for about 100 yards, alot of them on the shallow side close or in the brush. Best lure was Jeremy's rebel- blue with an orange belly- he can tell you what size. Also did well on a 1/8th oz purple jig (Vince) and swimming minnows - smoke, purple and motor oil. Ended up with 50 plus between the 5 of us. Mostly small males with a few sows up to 2.5 pounds and yes we did release probably half of what we could tell were females with eggs. Vince is cleaning them so I can't say how many had eggs but if I were to guess alot of them were females that were spawned out. We saw them circling all thru the area. One boat on the way out was about 300 yards above the bridge. I asked them how goes it and they said very good. So there must be alot of whites all thru the creek, probably alot still staging, waiting to move up. There were people fishing from the road and catching fish. Not sure how to get there... get a map or ask in town. But it isn't the easiest place to cast- lots of trees and it's a steep bank. Jeremy with a keeper walleye (released) I think we had 4-5 "eyes" with 2 keepers. Saw some real big ones up there. One of the seed sows that's dropping her eggs as I type!!
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Met and got to know a gentleman this weekend at Al Crise's Fly Casting Clinic in Glen Rose, TX. Steve Hollensed is a CCI and a darn good one. He's also a fly fishing guide on Texoma and his speciality is stripers. He's the only fly fishing guide on Texoma and if you're thinking about going there for some striper fun, look Steve up. Here's his site - http://flywaterangling.com
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Report On Both Swan And Beaver 4/5
Phil Lilley replied to Jeremy Rasnick's topic in Upper Bull Shoals
Are you sure - never? :) :)
