Phil Lilley

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/07/...=cnn_topstories Saw this one just now - HAMILTON, Bermuda (AP) -- A fisherman was recovering from surgery after he was speared in the chest and knocked into the Atlantic Ocean by a blue marlin during a fishing competition off Bermuda's coast. Ian Card, 32, was in stable condition at King Edward VII Hospital in the British Island territory from a wound that his doctor said could have been fatal. "He was very lucky," said Dr. Christian Wilmsmeier. "It was a very serious injury." Card and his father, Alan, both operators of a charter fishing boat and experienced marlin fishermen, had just hooked the fish Saturday when it suddenly leapt out of the water, impaled Ian Card just below his collar bone and knocked him into the ocean. "The fish all of a sudden changed direction and jumped. The fish made a leap and Ian just happened to be in the way," Alan Card said. The younger fisherman managed to struggle free while his father cut the line and helped his son get back into their boat, the Challenger. They managed to make it back to shore in about 40 minutes for emergency medical treatment. The fishermen estimated the marlin at about 800 pounds (363 kilograms) and about 14 feet (4.3 meters) in length.

Someone(s) was busy yesterday hitting google ads... 63! Our average is 30 per day in July. PETA?

Gov't policies/decisions killed Rockaway Beach. How?

Paper really didn't say what was said at the meeting. Dano- post any other stories, followups. Thanks!

I got back almost all of it. But it's all single, unnamed files in one folder. Went to WalMart last night and bought another external drive. This one is going on the shelf after I back up everything. Lightning won't even be able to get it unless it's a direct hit. Thanks

Put everything- I mean everything- pictures, doc files, maps, emails... on an external hard drive "to keep it safe". . . .. .and then reformat the hard drive. I left the drive plugged into a laptop I was reinstalling windows on and picked the wrong drive to format. I cried. It hasn't been a good day. Then my son-in-law gave me a website- http://recovermyfiles.com Downloaded the first program free and is running as I type. Been running for 3 hours and still looking for 'deleted' files on the hd. If this works I'll gladly pay a million dollars to get them back. If this works... I could have recovered those San Juan pics I deleted last fall of our fishing trip and John Johnson and his biggest trout (hope he doesn't read this!).

"Speeds" by in a drift boat???

Sounds like you have it... if everything is right, an anchor rope will pull a boat under in a flash. If you have to anchor, tie the rope off the front of the boat and have a knife ready.

Boy you're not alone on this one. If you're working in close quarters with others, it's tough sometimes to get along. I would encourage you to take the highroad in all things, even though you don't get recognized as doing such. This is where the spiritual principle comes in called 'reaping and sowing'. Forgiveness is another issue that's tough to do without God's help. If we are willing to forgive, even though we don't always feel like it, admit it to God and ask for help. All He asks for is a willing heart.

Please don't get me wrong... I don't want this to be a "upper lake vs lower lake" thing. We sometimes feel the same way esp in the winter when we know they are stocking down there and our fishing stinks. Kinda like right now- for the month of July. But the lower lake does have bass, crappie and blue gill and we don't. We don't have anything to fall back on except may be suckers. I guess that's why I stated what I did. The lake is 23 miles long and for all practical purposes, they only made the upper lake a coldwater lake, so to speak. But I know that's debatable- and that's ok.

http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php...p;setcookie=yes "...that fish caught on barbed hooks had higher mortality rates than fish caught on barbless hooks," http://dnr.wisconsin.gov/org/es/science/in...routHooking.pdf 3. Barbed hook restrictions are generally unnecessary (biologically ineffective at reducing post-release mortality) when stream trout are caught with bait or spinners. However, in bait fisheries where rates of deep hooking are substantially higher tha those we measured, barbless hooks may reduce mortality. http://www.absc.usgs.gov/research/Fisherie...ase.htm#results Management Implications do not even mention barbless vs barbed, only the difference in the time it takes to release the trout. In layman's terms from a highly respected outfitter: http://www.flyfishingjacksonhole.com/turck...ng_barbless.htm One person's opinion... Major newspaper article...pay attention to the 3 states/provinces that require barbless hooks in catch-n-release areas: http://www.startribune.com/531/story/566995.html Another reason for barbless hooks - human/hooking incidents. Add one more state to the list: http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dfwmr/fish/troutcar.html Not sure what you mean by adding another state... NY is pointing out using barbless hooks to reduce mortality of trout that are released. Our neighbors in KS teach this in their training programs for wildlife biologists (scroll to bottom of page for chart): http://www.k-state.edu/fishecology/fishmgt/regulations.htm Types of regulations http://prodwbin99.dnr.state.wi.us/org/wate.../pubs/trout.pdf This study found the diff "insignificant". So in addition to WI (above), we also have FL: http://research.myfwc.com/features/view_article.asp?id=3907 I like this quote - "None died when we simply cut the leader and left the hook alone. Fish are capable of rejecting, expelling, or encapsulating hooks. Encapsulation is a process whereby the fishes' healing process causes the hook to be covered with an inert matrix of calcified material; or a-cellular tissue. Steel and bronze hooks are less toxic and are rejected or �dissolved� sooner than are stainless steel and cadmium-plated or nickel-plated hooks." So why not make it a law that if a hook is deep in a fish's mouth, cut the line- then no fish will die. I've been preaching that for years. They also, and other studies list here, talk about circle hooks being the best for survival but point out hooking and landing fish is nominal using them. Why not require only circle hooks? And CA: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:6-OMi...=clnk&cd=19 Very little here about barbless hooks except pointing out the regulation. I never said barbless is a bad thing, nor have I disputed the fact that barbless hooks hurt fish less than barbed. I have to say these links are weak in proving beyond a doubt that barbless hooks should be the law anywhere- there has to be better places on the net- studies- results. I was looking this afternoon when you posted this and found the same sites using google. We are basically on the same page... except I don't think barbless hooks benefits trout enough to make it a law. Like alot of this material says- education in release techniques, ie. keeping the fish out of the water too long and mishandling, is more important than regulating hooks.

Underwater pic of trout? Rainbows? Off the forum or the oa site?

Can't take this to the bank but it's worth stating, maybe- Arkansas agent was asked about the barbless rule. He said it wasn't about saving trout- it was about making money. The fine for using a barbed hook in Arkansas is $175. Now for a true story- this you can take to the bank. A friend was fishing below BS dam on the White when an agent approached. He asked to see the fly he was using. He had been careful to pinch the barb down. When the agent poked the hook into his tightly weaved shirt, it came out easliy but it pulled out one fiber. He got a $175 ticket. He will never go back to Arkansas to fish.

I am closing this topic. For those who didn't, please go back and read the rules when you joined here. #1 respect others. That rule says it all guys. Do it or find another site.

"I don't know that Rockaway and Ozark Beach get their fair share of fish, because the hatchery won't say!" But Wayne- I thought lower Taney was the best kept secret bass fishing lake around... trout should be a bonus, not a right. Should it? And they only get trout as long as the surface water temp is cold enough. I'm not belittling the lower lake at all... I think their fishery is under rated and under promoted. But I've heard locals want it that way.

sorry- our generators kicked on and kicked the server off. But now the server is not picking up the camera- will have to investigate.

MDC does not agree with you. Fishery biologist Mike Kruse told me research shows using barbless hooks has little affect on a fishery. If it did, they would implement the rule.

Email me your mailing address and I'll send you a handful... Phil

Generation is here to stay... for awhile... may be for a long while. August isn't even here yet and it's normally the hottest month of the year. Triple digits triggers hydro-power and we see the proof everyday. The only question is when and how much. Saying that, it's going to be hard reporting to you when they will run water this next week. It could come on as early as 7-8 am and as late as 10-noon. But if it stays in the 90's, it will come on and build to fairly high level into the evening, going off as late as 11 pm, dropping out as late as 1 am. Night fishing- you'll have to deal with elevated water levels and lots of fog. Not impossible but count on fishing most of the night for the best fishing. When drifting, please don't do like this guy. He's in a "Crawdad", a small 2 person boat. He tried to anchor his boat sideways in the current just below the dam. the only thing that saved his life is that he was in the slower water close to the first island- kinda in its eddie. He finally stopped in the eddie closer to the island- after I told him not to anchor like that- it would swamp his boat. He was having a hard time hearing me but I'm confident I got my point across... he just didn't take hede. I thought as I took the pic... I hope this isn't the last picture of him. I did get out today. I took Rene Njamnshi from Camaroon, Africa. He is studying in this country with the help of a ministry my folks are involved in, Torchbearers. It was his first time fishing in a lake like this, I think first time fishing with a rod and reel. They use nets, hand lines and trot lines in his country. We drifted scuds mainly- orange, tan and gray. They liked the gray with a blue uv tint the best. We caught 8-9 rainbows- best as long as the flies were on the bottom. Cooper Creek is still the best area to catch fish. Some of the guides have been using a beaded egg fly under an indicator 5-6 feet deep- but using this up to Fall Creek and even up to Lookout and catching fish. Peach best color. Babler is still doing well on either tan or sculpin micro jigs under an indicator above Fall Creek early in the am. Fishing has picked up this week from previous weeks. May be it's because MDC has stocked from Cooper down a few times midweek. Alot of the rainbows stocked were pretty good size. They're hitting a variety of spinners and spoons as well as power eggs- contrasting colors- one white and one pink or yellow or orange- orange being the best color.

I have not, not will not ever put people down for gambling, nor have I suggested it. Some have stated here that they know people who have serious, life threatening addictions to gambling. You're reading something in this that isn't there. But I do know that some would put people down for gambling and that is sad. My point is that there are plenty of places to gamble today thanks to inidan tribes and changing of laws by voting. My issue is that I don't want it in my community and I will do everything I can do to keep it out within reason. The actual vote isn't for another 15 months so I'm not going to go to lengths to argue with anyone... I don't have the time. I didn't mean to go this far. But the fact that some people like to beat up on good people, like the Herscends, who are personal friends, without knowing them- who they are- what they really do- is wrong, and I will defend a friend. Enough said.

I fish mainly jigs below the dam, esp if the water is running. This fly guy won't- for sure. I will ask what color you're using though, esp if you're catching fish.

Come on... tax dedutions eliminates all credit for giving. As far as the proponents of gambling- you haven't seen anyone say anything about them here. If they want to spend their money on trying to get something legalized like gambling here- more power to them. But it's a gamble- if they win, they make tons of money back- millions. If they lose, they lose their money invested. It's not a donation. Herschends will spend money to defeat the measure- so will we. We believe it's an investment in our community's future- keeping it family friendly.

Please people don't judge others you don't know personally. Pete and Jack are great men that give a huge portion of their incomes to charity as well as their time. But they are the type of people who refuse to have their name associated with their giving. They donated $1 mil to our Y here but wouldn't allow us to put their name on it.

Water on or off? Using the jig under a float or throwing it? What time of day? Is the brown still swimming? Thanks for the report.

No- it's from the last try... an old billboard.