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Yeah right now, that's why they need to go back to the old days of dumping water out of the system before the spring melt and rains begin

The fact that the White River basin lakes are at or above PP before spring rains is absolute malpractice by the Corps. And don't get me started on how they handle the Missouri River up north these days.

I guess it's not shocking that the spillway flooding hurts the trout fishery overall. I thought #4 of the 2019 management plan was interesting. Seems to be a dig at the Corps imo. The Corps needs to go back to drawing down Table Rock in the winter so we aren't getting spillway releases almost every year. That's tough on the fish and landowners downstream

I think the penstocks are about 140ft below power pool. I know nothing about diving, but that seems pretty deep and something that between the cold and pressure would take some sophisticated equipment and expert training. Maybe they are using a submersible vehicle of some sort?

One of my favorite fishing memories to date was earning my first McCloud on Crane Creek.

Nothing earth shattering here and I didn't see a date it was written, but this is somewhat interesting explanation from the Tulsa District about lake level management. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.swt.usace.army.mil/Portals/41/docs/library/td-pubs/how_lakes_managed.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiXgPjH1ffgAhUs94MKHdCBCw0QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3L6v0wiNA6KQhXVU8I-vu6

Maybe my memory is wrong, but I thought the corps used to do winter draw downs on their lakes to setup to handle spring floods? If my memory is right, when did their philosophy change? Growing up Stockton lake would almost always be 5-10ft low by the end of duck season. It's almost like they treat power pool these days as the bare minimum, but that's just not what I remember.

That is one option I am considering.

Thanks for your advice. Another issue is that this has the bigfoot lower unit and finding a hydrofoil to fit might not be easy. If memory serves, you have posted on here before that if you are going to move the motor to do it one notch at a time, correct? This motor is mounted as low as it can be, which I think is factory standard.

There is not a bar that goes all the way across, but two plugs on each side that must do the same. They are both as low as they can go. My buddy has a similar boat size and motorwise. He bought his with a hydrofoil on it and doesn't have hole shot issues. Of course, no way to know if that would help me or not without drilling. Once I get up on plane can run 30mph, which is plenty for me. Just hate plowing for so long when I have more than one person in the boat or having to send everyone up front each time we take off

5500-6000

Looking to go to a different prop to help my hole shot and have a swim step added to my boat. Anyone have a suggestion for a good place to take it for this work? These are not two things I feel comfortable doing myself. I have a 17' Lowe deep vee that really needs a 90hp on it instead of a 60hp. Doing some research it seems a better suited prop should help without having to drill for a fin. Called the big Lowe dealer in Warsaw and they suggested exactly what my research had led to, but I got a lukewarm reception when asking about setting up to drop my boat off. Seems they are too busy to mess with my two things.

Congrats to Paul and Jimmy. That is a team effort to land a huge fish on Taneycomo in the wind and current. Thank you to those involved to properly document the catch and release him seemingly unharmed. You all are true conservationists. Amazing and fascinating to think how many lures, flies, and bait Frank has passed up over the years. Wonder if he has been hooked before only to break many lines or if this was his first time? Either way, the Frank lore enters a new chapter.

I wasn't aware that they have been ticketed several times. This was never something that should have been approved in the first place. During my fishing trips this year I never saw it out. Anyone know how far up they have tried to go? I know last year someone commented on a rider video showing them barely missing a large tree that was just below water level. It was big enough if they hit it right at full speed the boat could have flipped. I hope this thing just goes away or at least moves to Table Rock https://www.ky3.com/content/news/People-along-Lake-Taneycomo-say-Jet-Boat-damages-docks-and-boats-504233791.html

Good luck finding one. Earlier this year when searching for a boat found one at a dealer in Illinois, but it was sold before I could get up there to look at it. I ended up buying a 2012 Lowe deep vee out of Iowa. Saved about $3k buying up there outside of "lake country"

I am not a tech person so I have no idea how to make it easier. I'd get a kid or niece/nephew to update it for you. Regardless, my business hat says that you don't want to keep a site up that isn't being maintained. I would at least redirect to the main forum page

I had noticed, but not thought much of the main site no longer being updated since earlier this year. Although I know most of the info and fishing reports can be found on the forum or on Lilley's facebook page, I didn't know if that played into not keeping it updated or if Phil just doesn't have the time to mess with it. I am no tech wizard, but I believe there would be a way to imbed the onecast facebook videos on the Ozark Anglers website without having to double post.

Just saying that I don't think it's a great idea to have a 45lb kid drop a 25lb anchor.

This video makes me cringe. It wouldn't be funny if that anchor line got wrapped around that kid's leg and took him to the bottom. Looks to me like it almost did.

Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like my line of thinking is within the goalposts of reasonable and fairly standard.

Is there a general rule of thumb for this? I have gone on three guided fishing trips in the last ten years. All half day saltwater trips with one in Texas and two in Florida. If I recall, they were between $300-$400. I found all three guides to be very competent and worked hard (plus boat, bait, etc, ready to go when we got to the dock). I typically give the guides a $50 tip when we get back. One of the trips the guide stayed out longer than we had booked trying to get us on some fish as the morning was slow action wise. I gave him a $100 extra because he didn't have to do that. My brother is going with me in February and seems to think the cost of a guided trip is expensive enough already. If the guide is a dud and lazy then no tip, but otherwise going to flip him $50-$100 for a good time (catching fish not required). Is that too much or not enough?

What should be the typical cost and services involved on a 4 stroke winterization service from a reputable marine dealer service dept? My first season of owning a 4stroke and a new enough boat that I need to take proper care of it by the book. I have a 2012 Mercury 60HP 4 stroke

Still getting more experience boating upper Taneycomo on my own and learn something new every time I am down. Saw two stumps that gave me pause while trolling or drifting this week. One that was just above Trout Hollow near the private dock with the Yoda and then a big one just past 65 bridge out in front of the second or third dock on the north bank. That one could really do some damage and when the water was high on Thursday and Friday afternoon it is just below the water line. You can see the swirl, but most novice boaters would not pick up on that until it's too late. Also, the heavy generation on Thursday and Friday I noticed the water around monkey island had a constant roll to it like a boat wake. My guess is this phenomenon is where the faster current of the upper lake gets squeezed and meets the slower and generally deeper water of the lower lake?

Fished by boat Thursday afternoon and all day Friday & Saturday. Fished as far up as Fall Creek and down to about Tanglewood Resort all three days. Fishing was overall much better in the afternoons when water was running. Mornings were slower. Had five people in my boat using a mixture of jigs, spoons, power eggs, night crawlers, and berkley mice tails. The fish we caught Thursday seemed pretty lethargic, but got more lively through Saturday. Those of us throwing little cleo's with 2lb test did best in the mornings, but those using power eggs with a split shot 3' above a 8 or 10 hook caught a few as well. I had zero bites on several jigs I tried. Friday afternoon was one of the better 4-5 hour stretches I have ever experienced on Taneycomo. We drifted from Monkey Island to the railroad bridge numerous times and everyone in the boat caught at least one fish each drift. My brother was using a drift rig with a bubblegum color mice tail and he was catching 4-5 fish each drift. The bite was a little slower Saturday afternoon (and so was the water), but we caught generally larger fish it seemed with several in the 13"-14" range. As is my usual experience with the variety of styles my group uses, Short Creek to in front of Lilleys and Monkey Island to 65 bridge produced the most consistent action for everyone with or without water running. As always, great to be on the water for a few days with family and away from the stresses of everyday life.

Got down this afternoon and fished from Fall Creek down to about Lakeshore Resort area. Made two full drifts. Two of us in the boat threw jigs or spoons at times with no hits. Bottom rigs with power eggs caught fish pretty steady all afternoon. Seemed to catch nicer fish in stretch from monkey island to 65 bridge. Mainly new stockers past that, but if you have kids with you or are just wanting to catch some fish it was steady action. Power eggs in white, pink, orange, and chartreuse all worked and garlic or no garlic scent didn't seem to matter. My uncle has been down for a couple of days already and has had some luck in the mornings off the dock using orange power eggs catching a pretty thick 13" rainbow this morning about 9am. Saw a couple of fish caught this evening off the end of the Lilley's dock about when the water started to really slow down.