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I have a piece of chamois leather on a zinger on my vest that does a pretty fine job of drying soggy flies, but I often just fish them wet. I tell the trout they are stillborn or cripples. I might just use some off white snowshoe foot, I haven't used calf in years and can't remember why I bought it, but it is a nice shade of white.. The carabou is more visible than deer but it is also more fragile , I think.

Those flies may get bigger down here in the south, I tie very nearly (I may have used Caribou) the same thing on #14 & #16 for RRSP. I'm going to wing some with white calf tail to see if that works, I think I can see white better through the cataracts. Not me my attention wanders after 5-6 of any pattern, those would be having marabou or goat hair after 20 minutes.

I'd just loose the bookmark or folder, I'm probably too old to learn new flies, but I'm still curious. Do you tie those with upright divided flank wings or use slips for the wings? edit: if I ever intended to fish BSSP again I print off FW's post and tuck into a tying book on the desk. But at this stage of life I doubt I'll ever find a reason to go back there, if I'm that far from home there are places I haven't been to yet.

There are three native to Missouri water milfoils is the reason I asked. The invasive species are usually transplanted from aquariums. It be funny if tthe same homeowners that object to an invasive were the very ones that planted it. When I fished back east the locals called the native variety there simply "waterweeds" or "chokeweed" because it grew so dense as to look solid, as though it was choking off the entire stream flow, but fish and frogs, and other fish food loved them. Eurasian milfoil has the ability to grow a new plant from any broken piece, so that when a boat runs through a patch and the prop chops it up, it multiplies astronomically.

celery fly googles out to be either a moth or fruit fly

maybe tomorrow, with a new quota, you will tell me what a ''#22-26 Celery fly" is aka. It's one I never heard of. One I'll never use either. my next size smaller than #18 is #10. Or #12, 3XL. It's just too hard to palmer a hackle on those smaller hooks.

A native variety or stuff the homeowners threw out with the aquarium water?

Apparently in the trout circles "Spring Creek" is entirely different than "spring branch". I'd agree with spring branch describing any of the springs down to the confluence with another stream. I'd also class every Ozark creek as a spring creek because other than seasonal runoff in the flood season, springs are the source that keeps all our permanent waters flowing. I'd also class every stream I've ever seen as free stone because I've never seen a stream that was solid rock from end to end, my trouble is understanding what others mean when they speak or write about such things. Yes, Ive seen the daily cycle of baetis and tricos, although I call them little gray bugs, but those are not significant enough to plan you vacation around and travel hundreds of miles to fish. I have seen a huge hatch of some large insects on about 15 miles of US63 a ways south of Jonesboro and I've seen a few times that there were clouds of dragonflies. But, never any large number of larger sailboat winged mayflies. Is there a hatch at Bennett that happens on almost the same day every year that is significant enough to skip work for?

I don't know what you've heard, but every man made lake in the world reacts to all upstream water changes. If they didn't react when an upstream dam discharged, they'd be putting their own dam in danger.

On other forums I've had people tell me that Henry's and Madison ect were "spring creeks" and these Ozark creeks emanating from a spring were not, I'm not exactly clear on it, but apparently a "spring creek" is a slow moving, low fall rate, very fertile stream fed by several springs rather than emerging full grown from a rock hole and flowing fast over relatively sterile gravel. Definition may be from a book or books? Pictures of Henry's fork always remind me of a pond or lake. But it seems that's what is needed to create huge hatches of mayflies, I know that in over sixty years of being on streams at all times of the year, I have never witnessed a hatch that was in any way memorable. Usually a hundred or so insects over twenty minutes or an hour is what I've seen, here or in the north east, where again all the brooks are spring fed but are not "spring creeks". So do y'all define Bennett Spring as a "spring creek" or a free stone stream" ? Have any of you seen a huge hatch on an Ozark creek? edit; in thinking about this it occurs to me that in all world any streams not made up of snow/glacier melt must originate from springs?

So, I opted for the Kindle version; I've read over half of it and skimmed the rest, turns out his flies are the same I've used for decades for the most part, I did not expect it to have so much emphasis on Tenkara. I think I picked up a couple of tying tricks and his ties all would fit well with a beginner tyer, and they will all all fish.

Know nothing about boats, but 50+ years ago the USN used a lot of aluminum on ships' superstructure. I doubt they'd do that if the salt exposure was a problem. My experience is that as long as aluminum stays "painted" (coated) it doesn't seem to corrode at all, never had corrosion run wild under the paint like it does on steel. "Unpainted" aluminum corrodes in average air because it loves oxygen, and from what I saw the salt doesn't seem to make that any worse. I've read that the white powdery aluminum oxide corrosion makes it's own seal that prevents further corrosion. I'd look for fractures, scratches, gouges, pitting ect. in the aluminum and I'd walk away from anything that looked like a recent paint job.

Doubt I'll ever fish it either way, it's way out side my five counties. And in town too. But one never knows and I'd like to have an idea if the opportunity comes along..

Just about everything works on trout too, sometimes. They have small brains, poor eyesight, a large appetite and no hands to examine things, so they must mouth everything that resembles food. Stones, sticks, globs of moss all pass through trout guts. It's been said "I don't believe that a fly has been created yet that won't catch a trout"

On creeks I am familiar with there is quite a bit of difference between even 100CFS and 20CFS. both in depth and current, but in that picture the water still looks "large".

Does the water depth change much with the flow, or is it just a difference in current? I've never fished there and the couple times I looked at it no one was wading.

Back when I was in the east, so 30+ years ago, I read about these things and tied some and fished them without great success, they are easy ties and the lack of success was likely my fault, I never caught a single fish with egg patterns nor San Juan worms either. Supposed to be a drowned inch worm according to some and a caddis according to others. Brooke Trout Magnet they said. Try #12 4XL- 6XLong 2XHeavy hooks, and you can vary the weights by using more or fewer wraps of lead or leave the bead off, use a different thread color to designate whether the thing has 5 wraps of lead or 10 or 15 or no lead or whatever; but write down what the thread colors stand for, I forgot that part a couple times over the years. On the name- The fly origin and story- http://www.fishingwithflies.com/Fred'sWeenies.html

@seth I did too at first, but Brian's comment about only camera made me look again, and again. Third look and it became obvious, then he posted the slice view that made it more visible. Will the camera make any difference? not a bit, I think.

how deep is the water there at that flow rate? wadeable ?

Whitish thing on tree just to right of center, does it look like a game cam?

I asked an MDC employee once why they didn't use hidden cameras to fight poaching and he said that it was not legal for them to, deemed an invasion of privacy.

I wonder, has anyone done a study on lifespan of trout in that fishery, and could those dead fish be natural mortality? I've read that stocked rainbow trout can live three to five years, and if there is strict catch and release practiced, with 100% survival, after that three to five years there should be a whole year class of dying/dead fish, shouldn't there?

Whether they are or not, they'd be a place to stay.

same site as the old one, not finished yet, no signs up that I saw, my guess based on driving past it, is it might be open by Thanksgiving, but if you are on Facebook with Tim, send him a message and ask what he knows.

See dead fish in the water every single time I go to RRSP and it's worst during in the C&R season. I have come to believe cameras kill more trout than bait, but "playing" the fish might kill more than cameras. Rubber nets take their share too, because it takes the average user so much longer to get control of a slimy fish in a slippery net. Trout drown pretty quickly in a net waving around in the air. I suggest trying this