Chief Grey Bear

Why don't you join in wrench? Bring your fly rod.

And there is nothing wrong with recommending a fly rod. It is very useful on small streams. In fact they are a freaking blast. I would be right there with you even though it is not my top choice. It is my #2 choice. The only problem is he wasn't asking about a flyrod. He asked about a UL rod.

This is one of those specialty dinners. I was looking for more of an everyday on the menu type for $80. But it does give me an idea. How about Trash Mammals? Delicious Roasted Ground Hog BBQ Raccoon Baked Skunk Armadillo on the half shell Roasted potaoes Grilled corn

Why is it that anyone that doesn't do it like you, is doing it wrong? Whether it is fishing or canoeing or what canoe they may own, what rod they use, what line they use, what bait they use, what presentation they use, whatever it is, if it is not how you do it, it seems it is wrong and won't work. I can count on one hand the number of fish I have lost on 4lb test. And if you are catching nothing but 4 inch perch and 6 in smallmouth, you are fishing the wrong water. I know you are better fisherman than that and I know you know how to read water. You don't have to go the the very extrem to make a point. I'll put my fishing style against yours in a friendly manner on any stream any time. I'm not saying I am going to smoke your butt by any means, but I think I can hold my own. Lets do one on your side, one in the middle and one over here. I'll let you pick all three.

That is what I am thinking. They only came here to tell you to stay away. If that wasn't the case and they were lurking, they would have said something. There are more fakes out there than you think. Not the ones you find but I wouldn't buy one without knowing the source. It doesn't take but a few minutes to turn one out. I can't do it, never tried, but I have seen it done.

One thing I forgot to mention, I always upsize my rear hooks on those smaller baits. Most come with a #14 treble. I like to change to a #12 or more preferably a #10. You will loose a lot of your bigger fish with those smaller hooks. If you upsize to a #10 trebel, and I like to use gold, you will have a much better catch raito on those bigger fish.

I thought by the title you were going ULTRAligtht. Most suggestings are just barely on the light side and really hovering in the medium range. If you want to try ultralight use 4lb mono. Its tougher than you think. Although I did swtich over to a 8 lb test 3lb dia. braid a few years ago. But was mainly for the abrasion reasons. And in the long run it is hands down cheaper. For the rod, I stick with a 5' or 5'6" ultralight spin. I have two Falcons and a couple of Loomis rods at the moment. Both have horsed some very respectable fish from the brush. And that is also where a small dia. braid helps. I also won't fish any rod without ceramic eyes. Especially on the tip. Lines will cut into the tip eye and create grooves that cut into your line. I like smaller, lighter spinning reels. Somewhere in the 5oz range. I have tried a lot of different manufactures over the years and they have all worked about the same. I usually change out reels about every 5 years. I have used Pflueger, Shimano, Diawa, Shakespeare, and even a BPS rebuild that worked great. Small rods mean small baits. If you are tossing a 1/8 oz anything like stated above, you are not fishing ultralight. On the smaller creeks I like to toss Rebel Deep Teeny Wee Craws, Super Teeny Wee R's, Wee Frogs and Crickhoppers. I love throwing a 4 inch texas rigged worm. A 1/16 oz jig head with a 2 or even 3 inch soft craw is deadly. Just about any 1/16 oz type jig is really good. Maribou, hair, what ever. And like you stated a Torpedo will get some action. But I would make it a Teeny Torpedo. Really to simplify, just downsize your baits. But don't think just because you downsize your baits and your approach, your fish will be downsized too. Yes you will catch a bunch of smaller fish, but that is because you are fishing predominantly smaller water. But there are some very respectable fish in there. Don't be shocked when you pull some 2 maybe 3 pounders from those waters. Its a freaking blast on the small rod!

Maybe. But I would think that they would have at least clarified themselves by now.

What restaurants? Plus I'd like to meet the idiot that pays $80 for any plate of fish. Or even the $22.

Ever hear of fish head soup?

I'm not a Dallas fan but from what I hear Romo is a got to go go. And Jones need to keep his nose out of it. Let the the people you hired to run it, run it.

Wow, I didn't realize that. Thanks. Looks like he is headed to Dallas for the practice squad. Not they know much about winning either.

I looked at that today too.

I probably wouldn't be very good at it. I stick with one story. But you on the other hand.......

That is your writing not mine.

That looks like it came straight out of the wrench playbook.

I'm not arguing Al. But you have to have more than "Because I said so." We can't make rules and regulations based on personal opinion. We have both spent a great deal of time reading about the Ozarks and the fishing it offered. We both know from reading first hand accounts and records throughout the last 100 years that 20 and 20+ inch smallmouth in the 5 and 6 pound range were always the exception rather than the rule. Fish that have made it to this size are at the ends of their lifespan too. They won't be there year after year after year. There are a lot of scenario's that play out the life of a fish. I just don't think you can point the finger soley at gigging without solid, factual evidence. And I would love to come over there and fish. But you won't invite me.

He sold a ton of jerseys for them.

You're good. Thought maybe it was a new kinda Taco. Dang it!! Jerry hates political threads though. But being an Obama hater you'll be ok. He usually starts screaming for Phil. We won't hear a peep from about this one though.

Oh, a friend of Jerry's. Has to be. What the hell is a Pacos??

You'll have to go to a reputable smoke shop to get a quality lighter line.

If you want to stick a fish or two, as long as you are within the law, then by all means be my guest.

No its a spot problem only. Smallmouth are worm free. You can eat all you want. Thats why everyone keeps them.

Welcome to the Southwest my friend.

That ain't a Goldfish. That there is one of them Golden Trout! Rare as hens teeth in these parts. Buzz caught one a few years ago. Don't let him kid you. I think he mounted it. Put it on the wall I mean.