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The current IGFA all-tackle record—42-pound, 1-ounce slob— New Zealand, Ohau Canal, - Kandolf, March 2013.
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We all know record Browns live in Taney want one? here how, be warned this can become an obsession..... Huge fish get big because they are wary and LAZY...swimming around eating dead and dieing trout, Shad that get chopped up and stunned....... but we can't use trout for bait in Missouri...... but we CAN use shad... So how do we do that an release the fish?...easy.... Euro style quick strike rig....It takes planning and effort..... 1st things 1st gathering the bait, a floating light at night in TR will gather shad, a cast net will get you all you want, put them on ice and freeze them in gallon size ziplock bags. The cleaner and better you keep your bait the better it will work. you need lots of bait several pounds Scouting....big browns don't hang like other fish, many times they will hang in water considered "marginal" down lake, treat your scouting like your Muskie fishing, huge lures to get a fish to show itself.. ask your buddies buck fever hits when you roll a 40"er.. If you have to liquor him up to spill the beans do so.....you need to locate areas where you have seen larger fish lairs, Where people clean fish are good places, big fish roll at night and pick up easy meals. just down current near boat ramps. you don't need a boat, this can be done from the bank, though its better to scout with a boat and if possible fish from the bank near the spot you think is a brown's hide-out or supper table, use the chum to get them into casting range near your swim, if a boat is near Mr Big wary Brown.. you can count on them knowing, They didn't get big by being stupid... don't Trespass, get permission if you explain what your doing many times if its not in someones back yard with you screaming at 3am you can get permission... if need be,.. liquor them up too.....there are MANY good places to do this on Taney.... prep your swim area BEFORE you go fishing last thing you want is a lot of thumping around to let the fish know you are there.....cut down weeds, remove fish losing snags, you want a clean area to net that fish of a lifetime. Check out that spot when the water is generating, last thing you want is to be trapped at night as the water comes up, if you look you usually can tell where that water line is, be sure you can back up, if the water gets rolling pre-baiting is a must once the area is located, thaw out a gallon pack in warm water in a bucket, then cut the bigger shad into chunks, leave smaller ones whole, do this for several weeks at several fishing spots 1/3 a bag per spot hook bait is important... save the big shad in the 10-12 inch range and freeze them in bags of 3 baits each, if you want smaller Browns/Rainbows 3-6" shad... use rubber gloves on all bait handling for hook baits. last thing you want is having your bait smell like dawn dish soap or cigarettes, BIG no-no....prep some food color in deli containers, and use a Q-Tip or craft sponge to paint the hook-baits like a Trout ....Blue works on the back, pink/ red stripe...don't forget the spots!...paint them before you freeze them, with practice you can blend the food colors to look like that dead trout you see laying on bottom, where johnny tourist yanked out his 30 cent hook and tossed it back as a note gathering your bait at night and keep them Iced till the next day, THEN bag and prep hook baits, last thing you want is have your wife get up at 2am and your stinking up the kitchen painting shad to look like stocker rainbows....if need be liquor her up too Once your ready to fish and the bait is thawed, keep them on ice, even pre rig them, Take a shad and flex it from head to tale your taking the stiffness out before its rigged, see illustrations on how to set up a quick strike rig. my favorite hooks are Partridge Hooks CS1ST - V.B. Straight Eye Pike Hook... pricy but worth it Tackle should be for salmon sized fish, with a smooth drag, if you hook a 30+ and have flaws in anything from hook to rod butt, you can count on it failing, Euro-type carp rods, and Bait runner reels are Ideal, casting a 10" bait with hardware takes a rod that can handle it.... 12-13 foot 3# - 3/4 test curve 2 piece carp style rods are VERY pricy and can lob a bait farther than most people can chunk a bass plug....in a pinch a quality flipping stick and large capacity casting reel will work. Bite indication, alarms are a huge plus! you can get them reasonable now from online sources based in the USA. Keep an eye on fishing moon faze time to fish for Trophies is three days before and three days after the new or full moon, it is well documented more Trophies, state and world records are Taken at this time, planning pays off. TIME FOR THE MISSOURI RECORD TO FALL! Dead Baiting 101 this is for Pike but works great for Browns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klOXcKH0iEk Making fish oil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ4oqiHJWbA IMPORTANT! oiling your dead-baits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioxfm5Dz-Ns&t=1157s Tie a Quick Strike rig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqRRmZUw7xQ Browns love dead baits! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dbbrxalmuo
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Found this pic of the world record Green sunfish
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
My kid brother caught and released a Rock bass in shoal creek in the 70's that weighted 3 lbs even on a zebco del-liar, he released it because he was too lazy to clean it! Then in the late 70's early 80's there was a group of Trot liners that was known on Stockton as the Sarcoxie gang, that had a reputation of landing triple digit Flatheads out of the lake, strictly meat fisherman and VERY tight lipped, I saw one fish that a old timer I worked with had in a horse tank he had in his garage that he let them "clean out" for a few days before he cleaned it he said it weighed in the 120-125 range and it was big as a spoonbill! He talked me into putting my hand in the tank in font the beasts mouth and it bit the hell outa my hand faster than you could say CHIT!....ripped skin right off my hand!.... -
elk river drainage smallies look like that, blonde gravels make them color that way me thinks, if its jaw extended past its eye it may have been a Neosho strain...Unsure if they are in the James, as I only have fished it near TR for white bass/walleyes
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Found this pic of the world record Green sunfish
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
many a record has not been reported...... -
Found this pic of the world record Green sunfish
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
nope state and WORLD record at that -
CATCH THE SLAM "all strains of Black Bass"
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
The redeye bass has a slender bronze-olive body that fades into white on the belly. It has dark lateral blotches along the side and horizontal rows of spots on the lower side and distinguishing white edges along the upper and lower edges of the caudal fin which similar species don't have. An orange margin is also often present on the caudal and anal fins. The mouth is large and extends to the rear edge of the eye, but not beyond The Redeye bass is a species of freshwater fish in the sunfish family native to the Coosa River system of Georgia, Alabama. The waters it is normally found in are cool streams and rivers in the foothills. -
CATCH THE SLAM "all strains of Black Bass"
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
Suwannee bass is a very heavy fish that seldom exceeds 12 inches long. Mature Suwannee bass have bright turquoise coloring on the cheeks, breast, and belly. The upper jaw does not extend beyond the eye, and there is only a shallow notch between the dorsal fins. A distinct dark blotch where the lateral line meets the caudal fin and scales on bases of dorsal, anal and caudal fins further identify Suwannee bass. it is native only to the Suwannee and Ochlockonee River drainages in Florida and Georgia. Photo #2 top is Suwannee top / Florida Largemouth bottom -
CATCH THE SLAM "all strains of Black Bass"
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
IMHO the Shoal Bass is the coolest looking...similar in body shape to largemouth bass, but unlike the largemouth, the shoal bass has scales on the base portion of the second dorsal fin; their first and second dorsal fins are clearly connected, and its upper jaw does not extend past the eye. Shoal bass also lack the dark lateral line that largemouth have. Shoal Bass have vertical stripes above the midline of the body which resemble tiger stripes. -
CATCH THE SLAM "all strains of Black Bass"
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
This fish is generally green in color and can be easily distinguished from other black bass it does not have vertical bars like the smallmouth bass, its jaw does not extend beyond the eyes. In comparison to the spotted bass, the Guadalupe bass coloration extends lower on the body. -
CATCH THE SLAM "all strains of Black Bass"
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
Spotted Bass, "Kentucky"The spotted bass has a dorsal fin that is clearly connected, while the largemouth appears to have two separate fins. The corner of the jaw does not extend past the eye like a largemouth's does -
CATCH THE SLAM "all strains of Black Bass"
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
The Smallmouth Bass (top) the Neosho Smallmouth Bass (middle). There is also another “genetically distinct lineage” known as the Ouachita Smallmouth Bass, all available to most in the Ozarks, the Neosho jaw extends far past the eye... -
Perhaps its bucket list fish of many angler.....worthy of a pilgrimage! Largemouth Bass Northern Strain and Florida Strain A "Florida Strain" Largemouth Bass generally has better defined, & much darker, vertical & horizontal lateral lines, than northern strain. Their pectoral & anterior dorsal fins are more vertically aligned and a bit larger than the northern strain, whose pectorals are most generally located just forward of the anterior dorsal fin. Generally more football shaped, longer with thicker tails, oh yeah and harder to catch!
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Found this pic of the world record Green sunfish
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
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Hey Vernon, this Threads for you, SNAKE stories, Pranks
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion
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Found this pic of the world record Green sunfish
MoCarp posted a topic in General Angling Discussion
always read about it, I see someone found a old pic, Thought I'd share, Paul M. Dilley caught the 2lbs 2oz world record in Stockton Lake on June 18th 1971..... 46 years ago tomorrow -
Old string.... but warmouth are common in the spring river and blackberry creek They are looking to stock Grand Lake with them..FWS looks like they are getting the brood stock selected...Last time I looked World record Neosho was just a under 3 lbs...unsure what it is or if the MDC even has a submission "Peoria Indian tribe hopes to stock Grand Lake with native smallmouth bass" http://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/peoria-indian-tribe-hopes-to-stock-grand-lake-with-native/article_0c06346e-fc7c-538e-93df-3d39b5f9b6c3.html http://digitalmedia.fws.gov/cdm/ref/collection/document/id/2138 http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/outdoors/vinita-man-catches-surprise-record-smallmouth-bass-at-grand-lake/article_5a127d74-d598-5141-bcb2-b0993a0f54f6.html
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Nice! I like the fact more big walleye are showing up again, haven't heard of the 14-15 pounders that used to show up.....with the lake strain far out numbering the native river strain... I asked a state biologist why they didn't stock more of those instead, he said they have tried, but they where troublesome to raise in numbers, thats the same strain that produced the 21..pound state record...and numerous fish in the high teens
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Once I was getting ready for an estate auction for my Late Father-in-law, and had a friend's 13 year old son in tow for compensated slave labor. On the way to the auction's location with a load of items for the sale, We saw a big king snake or hognose crossing the road, looked and acted just like a rattler, but was harmless, we coaxed the puffing, hissing, striking snake into a pickle jar with a big thistle stalk, put on the lid and headed down the road......every 30 sec or so the young lad would open the lid to "let in fresh air", and it would aggravate that snake to no end, each time he opened the lid made that snake madder and madder...then off in the distance was the unmistakable silhouette of a mail carrier.s jeep, dust cloud in tow .....now in our area mail boxes can be miles apart, and people our way learn to make your mail box bash proof...this mail box next up for that carrier was the larger rural type, fence post and rusty dairy milk can full of rocks and concrete, if it gets wacked or backed over you just stand it back up..... We stopped, then poured the jar full of cranky snake in that mailbox and put the flag up,.... Then proceeded to the location of the auction, gave the carrier a wave as we drove past him on that gravel road it..... was warming up that day and on our way back we were going to turn the snake loose, not completely sure Mr Mail Man would release said reptile....yet on the way back we could not find the mailbox..after about the 3rd pass the young man I was with spotted it in the ditch mail scattered everywhere, the image in my head of a mail carrier hand deep in a mailbox with a pissed off snake for all the world he thinks is a rattler is priceless
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Its amazing how strong carp lips are, feed the carp at Orleans Trail marina at let them turn with your finger! did that once and jacked up my knuckle for a month... commons also have crusher plates in the backs of their throats, makes short work of them....The Common carp's native ranges over lap the native ranges of Zebra Mussels, they are adapted to feed on them, as a note in US waters with Zebra mussels the carp seem to get bigger Native Range: The zebra mussels is native to the Black, Caspian, and Azov Seas and Ural River. .....Common carp's native range also extends to the Black Sea, Caspian Sea and Aral Sea. In Europe, domestication of carp as food fish was spread by monks between the 13th and 16th centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_mussel
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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, June 7
MoCarp replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
do you think they are TR washouts?....or swim ups from Bull shoals? or always been a few in Taney -
as a note the lake seems to get rougher easier when the water is higher, but keep an eye out to wind reports and learn to fish with the wind at your back, you'll catch more fish that way...also a drift sock is really handy!
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