Gatorjet

So, is your fiance going to be your partner in the Firefighter's benefit tournament in a couple weeks?

Giess they have to set the line somewhere. But I never understood the ban on soft plastic as a part of a hard bait. Maybe it happens, but I have never seen a trout swallow a plastic tailed Road Runner, or Trout Magnet. I understand live, scented, or soft material as the entirety of the lure.

So soft foam body and rubber legs, legal. But soft plastic body on lead head jig (Trout Magnet, curly tail Roadrunner, Beetle Spin), not legal. Doesn't really make sense.

Fake news is not just about political agendas. Where are the real journalists that acrually get the facts before they present a story? Just seems like they take the easy way out. Don't bother working hard to discover the facts, and detsils. Just present a story on what they think went on. Sorry for the OT rant.

So did they get any out, or just pulled them out further into the lake? Never saw them doing anything but breaking the strap or pulling it loose.

I was standing up by the last Condo right next to the creek. Looking down on where the pile of three were. Just the pickup left. The red car, and white compact SUV were not there. One of the other people there said that they saw them drag the two off the pile, but they both broke off out in the middle. I think one of them is what they were working on when I was there. The plan might work with a diver to rig them correctly, and one of those big wreckers they use for 18 Wheelers. I probably left just before you did. A reporter from KOLR 10 in Springfield had just showed up. Maybe they will have some kind of report.

Witnessed a bit of the "Fiasco of Fall Creek" this morning. I think they need a bigger wrecker!

Phil, did they get any of the cars out today? We were in town on a last minute trip, and I drove down to Fall Creek a couple times to see what was going on. Stopped by before we left town. Saw you out there, did you get any pics, or drone videos. What a Chinese Fire Drill!!! They had pulled two from the pile by the bank, and from what I heard they both broke off, or came unhooked about halfway across the lake. I watched it happen once. How do you remove cars waahed into a lake by a flash flood? Obviously not with two guys on Waverunners, a couple people in a pontoon boat, and a small, standard car towing type wrecker!

Wonder if Bull Shoals is down enough to repair the air bags at Powersite? kind of think if not they would just flag the car lot, and do both jobs at the same time.

Yup, Share with people on how to catch more and bigger fish..and hopefully encourage them to catch photo and release the bigger fish so more catch say a 4pound + smallmouth...or 40 pound common carp...even 2 pound bluegills.... "Catch what you can use and release the rest to fight another day" Bill dance For the past nearly 30 years Taneycomo has been my main fishing water. I just don't see the need to post about every fish, every trip, every tournament. It is quite interesting to randomly go back through many threads on both the Taneycomo forums, and even the trout forum and see the loudest complainers about the jet boat conspicuous by their absence. Do you, or have you ever fished Taneycomo? Especially from a boat where the jet boat is operating. The closest thing I have to a "steak" in a bar on the Landing would be a ribeye at Big Whiskeys. As mentioned before, I have no connection in any way with the Branson Jet Boat. In fact, when the first information came out that it would be going "up" and down Taneycomo I was opposed to it. Down lake should be no real problem. I do have an issue on demonizing it through uninformed, and false predictions of doom and gloom caused by horrendous wakes. It just is not going to happen. I guess it's just that even though my septaugenarian body may be deteriorating, my brain hasn't sunk to the "get off my lawn" mentality.

Guess you haven't been around the Landing to see the "youg'ns" enjoying the kayaka, stand up boards, the new CraigCat catamarans. Then moving down the Landing for a ride on the zipline. I'm sure their next stop after the zipline will be the jetboat. Remember those young'ns are not all 20 year old snowflakes. A good number of them are the 35-50 demographic that have, and more importantly let go of the $$$. While many your assumed elderly "spenders" squeeze their nickels so tight ole Tom Jefferson's eyes bug out.

No not involved at all. I am also not promoting it either. Just accepting the fact that it is a legal operation, and no amount of false, or exaggerated gloom and doom speculation is going to stop it. As long as it stays down lake from the Landing, I have no problem with it. I do have a few years, and river (and lake) miles of jet experience. I know how they operate, what they do, and how they do it. The previous posts from people who were actually on the lake opposed to your speculation are much more valid to how a jet boat runs. As for your friend's estimation of the speed it was traveling, the sound of it could be quite deceptive. So far from reports from fishermen in a bass boat, and also kayaks your prediction of a devastating wake just is not proving to be correct. Gatorjerk, really. A bit childish aren't you?

Your friend had a radar gun?

I would also be very much in favor of a minimum length lake wide. Let those fewer, larger fish get even bigger. Say 12" or so. That's what we also told the creel census people when they talked to us in February. Not sure how many others mentioned it.

Here is the article from MDC. https://mdc.mo.gov/newsroom/mdc-adjusts-2017-trout-stocking-compensate-flooding

LOL, Mind slip, going through fishing withdrawal! LOL, mind slip. Going through fishing withdrawal!

Is the truck what Nick and I saw about half way across the lake right in line with Cooper Creek Marina's office? Couldn't really tell what it was, but looked like no roof, and the seats exposed.

Great idea, put a voracious fish eater in Taneycomo! Why not throw some real trophies like Muskies in while they're at it! Maybe they can put river otters in the small mouth streams too, Oh, they did!!! Leave well enough alone.

As mentiomed in the previous thread I have no connection with people that build 50 passenger jet boats. As for more of them being on the lake, market saturation will determine that. How many "ride the ducks", which create a bigger wake than the jet boat will, are there in Branson. One company, two locations.

Thinking he has no jet experience anywhere. Just Jon boats with prop drive outboards. Seth has it exactly right. As long as the Branson jet boat stays on the lower section where there is ample room to operate I have no objection to it. Even fishing in that part of the lake, which I do often, should not be adversely affected. I have nothing to do with building, or selling any kind of boat. I am only trying to point out facts about how they operate. I know the guys at Gator Boats only because I bought one from them. They build a very fine boat, and have several models from a flat bottom to a V-hull like the one I had built in a tournament bass boat layout. To 21' high performance tunnel hulls. But they do not build 50 passenger tour boats.

Because you obviously have no knowledge of how a flat bottom jet boat operates. Of all the boats you have seen on LoO I will bet a very small percentage, if any, were flat bottom jet boats. That is entirely your opinion, and invalid because again you have little or no knowledge of the subject. Similar boats have been operating on much more treacherous waters for a long time with no calamities. The captain of these boats, and the company he works for are not likely to endanger anyone in today's litigious world. Again, as facts have been quoted by the operator, "speeds up to 30MPH" Not exactly "high speed" in today's boating world. You have checked my profile recently, so you know I am not a young man. But I also do not let my years hold me back to a time long gone, not hold me back from enjoying myself. Including jet boats, and ATVs! Finally, Phil is too much of gentleman to comment, but I find your insistence in calling him by his last name only insulting, and disrespectful! Phil Lilley is a man of high moral values, and integrity. He is only trying to hold this conversation to facts, and not conjecture. Facts that you seem to ignore while continuing unsubstantiated conjecture.

Probably a much bigger concern than the jet boat ride. Like the majority of boating accidents that involve PWCs, the people renting the CraigCats will quite often be more intent on their ride than safe operation of the vessel. Not sure if it was a rental, or owned by the user(s). A stand up paddle board with three people on it. One bikini clad chick laying on the back, another sitting straddled on the front, and Mr. Macho standing up in the middle. None of which wearing a PFD!!!

I doubt very seriously if the small area cleared for the Mountain Coaster had much effect on the flash flooding of the creek. I remember a similar, but no quite as serious flash flood on that creek before the coaster was built. The difference, an inch or two less rainfall in a short time. Cooper creek where the van with five people in it was swept away isn't anywhere near the Mountain Coaster. Just a lot of rainfall in a short time.

More disinformation, speculation, and false statements. You do realize the "blaring" music in the videos is just that. In the videos. It's a background trac added to the video!

Probably happier to see it blast past on plane than some joker thinking he is being courteous plowing the stern of a deep V four feet in the water while passing me 30 feet away!