Well said !! If everyone were completely, and I mean completely honest with themselves I don't think there would be too much difference in our political beliefs. I have been a small business owner since 1998, and my opinion has been slowly sculpted since then. A former union employee myself, I have been on both sides of the fence and can appreciate both perspectives. I will tell you that owning your own business and working for someone else are so different that neither one can be expected to understand the other side. I know you were a former school teacher Al and were probably in the NEA, just like Zipstick. You now have your own business and know the difficulties involved with things like deadlines, payroll, etc. We have different views base on many things, I'd venture to guess that your parents molded your opinion as well. The thing is, regardless of your beliefs there should be a respect on both sides (which you always show). I really doubt either of us will ever change very much, maybe a little bit though. I actually starting to agree with flytier57 a little, which absolutely scares the BJesus out of me.