Ok Boys... Here We Go!

[Rolan Duffield]

Phil:

Thanks for the report and please keep us informed. I'm a long way from Taney though if I can help in any way -- please feel free to call. We're hoping that this storm passes some distance away from the lake areas.

We're expecting heavy rains here in KC tonight and tomorrow. Flooding is expected in some areas south of here.

Rolan

[jdmidwest]

Question, when you say they are going to open the gates further, are you talking about the ones over the main stream portion of the dam or the overflow ones to the north side of the dam? I was looking at google earth and trying to figure out where that water will go if it comes out, looks like it would flood out the hatchery. Any pics of the dam with the gates open?

[Phil Lilley]

They will only open the dam to the north (or the auxillery) dam if Beaver Dam breaks.

Now this is new news, for me anyhow.

I've been miffed at the Corp why they've kept Beaver Lake's level right at the top of the flood gate or flood pool. As some are saying, the waves are lapping over the top of the flood gates. Now I understand.

Beaver is the first in the chain of lakes. They are letting just enough water out of Beaver to keep the level where it is. It's acting as a spillway essentially. They will do the same thing with Table Rock. This revelation came as a news article in a paper tonight.

They won't let any more water out of Table Rock UNTIL it's level reaches 931 or the top of the flood gate. Then they will let out enough water so as to not let the water spill over the top of the gates. Again- the floods gates will act as a spillway. The water they will let through will match the water running into Table Rock. That's why they have no idea how much or how high it will go.

[Project Healing Waters]

It's been raining cats and dogs here for the past two hours. I'd imagine we've already gotten about 1/3-1/2 inch. And it's only Wednesday night. This is supposed to continue through tomorrow. I suspect there will be a lot more water coming down the James again.

Best wishes to everyone.

[Phil Lilley]

In saying all that, TR's level is now 726.6. It has dropped 8 inches just today so it's on the way down fast. BUT with the rains now and tonight and tomorrow, it will head back up, but how much is yet to be seen.

Following this thought, the same thing will happen on Bull Shoals and at Bull Shoals Dam, as well as Norfork. The Corp will not release additional water until they have to- when the lake gets to the top of the flood pool. I'm sure there's exceptions to the rule but one thing is for sure- when BS's level reaches the top of the pool, and it will very soon, Bull Shoals Dam will not be a dam anymore, it will be a spillway, unable to control its flow.

Another scary thought- BS's watershed will change from it's normal area to the whole White River Water Basin because at that time, all the dams in the chain will be spilling their water thru the whole system. Now you see the potential full impact of this event.

[Project Healing Waters]

Yep. NWS Springfield as of now says 3.5-4.0 inches of rain between this evening and midnight tomorrow over most of the upper White River basin, and not a whole lot less to the East to Mountain Home. We've already had about 3/4 of an inch. And the heaviest rains are still supposed to be tomorrow afternoon/evening. And you are correct...once the lakes are all full there is no control over what happens from there. These lakes were designed to hold back a certain amount of flood water from the upper Mississippi Delta. And we're getting very close to that amount. The USACE will not allow the structural integrity of the dams to be threatened. They will release whatever they have to to keep the water below the top of flood pool. This could cause the river below BSD to consume every bit of lowland from there to the Mississippi. We're talking about a LOT of water. And Spring is just really getting going.

[hoglaw]

We're getting pounded here in Fayetteville. I'm at the upper end of the White River watershed. The really heavy stuff was farther south. Ft. Smith had baseball sized hail. It looks like we'll be sending plenty of water your way, and with more storms lined up in the Pacific, we're going to have a few more heavy rains. As much as I rag on you Missouri folk, I sure hope everyone makes out okay.

[Don Allenbaugh]

As of 01:15 10Apr08 we have had 0.94 inches of rain at the White in Gassville. My weather station is saying that it is raining cats and dogs. At 01:00 we had 0.91 inches so it is raining pretty heavy and by the looks of the NWS radar most of the heavy stuff is to the west and north of me. It's looking bad folks!

[taxidermist]

Powersite will become a class II rapid.

We have had lots of rain down here, five inches in the last 24 hours. one of my ponds does not hold water and it is up over the dam this AM, thats about 6 feet of water.

Buffalo River is up 9 feet at Carver.

Down White River who knows what will happen?? Back in the 80's I saw Bull Shoals up and under HWy 14 at Leadhill near the school. also have seen Taneycomo backed up into Hollister, the curcle of buildings on the south of B-65, Wax museum and a car museum use to be there. The Yachet club and trailer park was underwater.

Still lots of rain headed this way!

[drbewley]

Norfork is over flood pool.

Norfork Lake Top Flood Pool: 580.0

North Fork River Top Power Pool: 552.0

(NFDA4) Bottom Power Pool: 510.0

Turbine

Time Elevation Tailwater Release Generation

Date CS/CDT (ft-msl) (ft-msl) (cfs) (mwh)

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08APR2008 2000 579.73 378.64 5612 84

08APR2008 2100 579.70 378.70 5588 84

08APR2008 2200 579.70 378.69 5612 85

08APR2008 2300 579.72 378.70 5588 83

08APR2008 2400 579.72 378.70 5588 85

09APR2008 0100 579.71 378.66 5612 84

09APR2008 0200 579.73 378.70 5612 85

09APR2008 0300 579.72 378.68 5612 84

09APR2008 0400 579.72 378.66 5636 85

09APR2008 0500 579.72 378.70 5636 85

09APR2008 0600 579.73 378.72 5636 84

09APR2008 0700 579.72 378.68 5636 86

09APR2008 0800 579.72 378.72 5708 85

09APR2008 0900 579.73 378.84 5876 88

09APR2008 1000 579.73 378.74 5876 88

09APR2008 1100 579.72 378.80 5924 89

09APR2008 1200 579.72 378.76 5876 88

09APR2008 1300 579.73 378.82 5900 88

09APR2008 1400 579.72 378.81 5876 89

09APR2008 1500 579.72 378.80 5876 88

09APR2008 1600 579.72 378.69 5636 84

09APR2008 1700 579.72 378.62 5444 82

09APR2008 1800 579.72 378.68 5540 84

09APR2008 1900 579.72 378.66 5588 84

09APR2008 2000 579.72 378.70 5636 84

09APR2008 2100 579.72 378.64 5660 85

09APR2008 2200 579.72 378.70 5660 86

09APR2008 2300 579.72 378.64 5660 84

09APR2008 2400 579.77 378.71 5660 85

10APR2008 0100 579.81 378.70 5660 85

10APR2008 0200 579.90 378.90 5636 72

10APR2008 0300 580.04 379.18 5660 42

10APR2008 0400 580.20 379.45 5660 43

10APR2008 0500 580.38 381.67 5684 42

10APR2008 0600 ---- ---- ---- ----

10APR2008 0700 ---- ---- ---- ----

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