Man Shoots Pit Bull In His House While Being Attacked.

[jdmidwest]

The point of the matter was the problems with people not controlling their pets. I did not mean to make this a liberal/conservative matter, other than the point, if you don't read the whole story you probably won't get it. The mindset to the story is made with the headline. There are far more dog owners than non-dog owners, so the headlines slanted to the majority, in my opinion, I don't have any real facts to support my theory, just observations. While I don't have a problem with dogs, I do have a problem with owners that fail to control them. A well maintained dog is a joy that everyone should enjoy in life. That is my beef, not politics. The other pet peeves against the media just surfaced.

Thom, you have seen my dilema also with the dogs. The law is on the side of the pet owners, not the persons being harassed by the uncontrolled pets. I too have had many problems since moving out in the country in a rural subdivision. I carried a 38 for a while when I worked in my garden after being threatened by neighbors rotweillers. Several occaisions their rots and a pitbull/border collie mix chased my daughter and girlfriend in the yard and myself while working in the garden. Others had similiar problems, they attacked a family member on a horse at a nearby property. Local law enforcement, after I filed a complaint, stated that if I killed them on my land I would probably receive a punishment. Fortunately their poor care led to some sort of disease that killed them off. One was shot by a neighbor up the street, although it was never proven that he shot it. It was attacking his cat and he used a pellet rifle.

I am currently having problems with neighbors weiner dogs in the trash and in the yard. I caught one in the live trap twice, the second time I returned it when he was home. He acted like it was no big deal. His daughter lives on the other side of me, she came out on the deck and asked me if I had any problems with dogs in my trash. She had not seen me bring in the trappe dog. She was sure her problems were with the adjoining neighbor, not her dad's dog. Even after explaining that I had a trail of white castle boxes from her yard to her dad's yard, she still would not accept that it was the dog I trapped. The little dog comes across when it is out and nips at your heels. I have been bitten and so has my girlfriend. The owners son in law is a Cape PD officer.

Now you know the rest of the story.

How can you shoot someone trespassing on your property and endangering your well being and not shoot their pet? Should we just have to live with it?

[jjtroutbum]

jd,

I hear exactly what you are saying about pet owners being responsible for there animals and have had experiences with owners and there pets affecting me and mine. Get some Pepper Spray or better yet a big can of the bear spray you will have better range and less cost since you to pay for the APPA rating. (safe for human consumption)

Give the offending dog a good shot and the owners will have a wonderful time cleaning up the mess there little angel created thanks to there inaction.

Just make sure you notify an adult of the chemical presence if possible. Since that stuff could possibly effect anyone touching/cleaning the pet afterwards.

[Al Agnew]

I totally agree about dog owners controlling their pets.

Nice thing about where I live is that there aren't any neighbors close enough to see me if I dispose of one of their dogs. (Actually I haven't had to do it yet, but wouldn't hesitate if the dog was threatening us or our cats or chickens.)

[Trav]

I fight fire with fire.

My varmit killer dont care if the animal is somebodies pet. She will defend the ground she stands on. And she HATES cats. But, I will shoot her myself if she ever attacked a human.

So, I can say I am aligned with Al. I wouldnt hesitate killing a nuisance dog. At least where I live, To dispose of the evidence is as simple tossing it in the lake and let the possums fish it out downstream.

But, as a dog lover, I have rarely found a dog much of a nuisance. My neighbors as well as myself wouldnt ever chain up our pets so sometimes on a warm winter night you can hear 3 to 6 "hood" dogs tracking down some scared to crap varmit along the river bank.

After all, It is entertaining and lets not forget....it is thier job.

Hehe

[jdmidwest]

Good to know Al, I know where to drop them off next time I go thru TDL.

My prob is when you involve the law, they tell you it is against the law to dispose of an animal. The last one stated to me that an animal does not know boundry lines and he does not know it is trespassing or causing you harm so the owner has a right to sue if you kill it. Humans trespassing can be shot on site if they are threatening you on your own property. Since when is a dogs life more valuable than a human?

Animal rights group would shudder at the things that go on at a farm. I have dispatched strays, sick livestock, and pets in my life. I have always considered it the humane thing to do. When coyotes attack cattle, we attack coyotes. When the chicken coop gets raided, coons and minks get trapped. When the garden gets raided, squirrels, coons, ground hogs, rabbits die, no matter if the season is in. A farmer has a right to protect crops and livestock. Free ranging dogs can cause alot of damage to livestock and fences.

I have been around animals all of my life, and have always been in control of pets, livestock, and wild game. I have always loved animals and have always had a pet. Crow, squirrels, rabbits, flying squirrels, wild turkeys, deer, dogs, cats, hamsters, gerbils, fish, snakes, lizards, pigs, horses, chickens, ducks, and some mean coons have all been pets of mine for some amount of time. I would hate to dispatch some kids pet, but owners are too stupid to realize that not everyone thinks that the little biting dog is cute.

[gonefishin]

I wonder if they guy actually got ticketed for discharging a firearm in city limits and if he does I wonder if the law actually says you cannot discharge a firearm within the city limits even in defense of your self, home or property or if it is a law intended to curtail indiscriminate discharging of firearms within the city limits.

[Kicknbass]

The man with a dead dog needs his pants sued off.

Surely you jest. The dog is the man's "Property" if he desires to dispose of his property by capping him. It should be his right to do so. Why is it OK to take the animal to the Vet and have the dangerous dog "put down" but not OK to cap him with the firearm granted to him by his 2nd amendment rights.

[soggyfeet]

All I know is that if a dog or any other animal is attacking a human it is going down if I am around. (im more talking about dogs and other animals relative size dont think I could do much to a bear or anything like that) Now I dont carry a gun or have them loaded in the house ready to shoot anything so that isnt my concern. If a dog is attacking a person on your property or even on another property such as a sidewalk or neighbors yard if you help that person out and end up killing that dog is there going to be charges filed against the dog owner or against the good sumaritan for killing the menace to society. And ust to make things easy say that you know the dog is not your neighbors and they are not just rough houseing but it is a clear case of human distress.

[jjtroutbum]

Surely you jest. The dog is the man's "Property" if he desires to dispose of his property by capping him. It should be his right to do so. Why is it OK to take the animal to the Vet and have the dangerous dog "put down" but not OK to cap him with the firearm granted to him by his 2nd amendment rights.

Guess i should have made my statement more clear sorry. The person who failed to control his now dead dog. Needs to be taken to the cleaners for the damages inflicted to the man who took responsibility for the defense of himself and his.

Why carry a gun? 1. When seconds count cops are only minutes away. 2. Ever try and carry a cop?

[hoglaw]

So it's a liberal slant if the picture and caption are arguably "liberal," (although I don't know where you get a liberal/conservative distinction out of this story) while the rest of the text tells the whole story? Does this mean that only liberals go on to read the articles while the conservatives look at the pretty pictures? That's like people accusing wikipedia of having a liberal slant...pretty comical to me at least.

In all seriousness, the municipal ordinance is a generally applicable non-criminal penalty. At least that's how it would work in Arkansas. I would imagine that most prosecutors would just drop it. It's too bad a dog had to be shot, but I think we would all concur that if we were in his unfortunate shoes, that dog would have been toast.