Expelled

[OzarkKid07]

As I read somewhere else, the arguments ID proponents put forth DO have a valuable purpose...they are a catalyst for a lot of research that ends up showing how wrong they are.

Al,

I in no way intend to get really into any discussion about this, but I recently read a book called "The Case for Faith" by Lee Strobel. If you're truly an agnostic, I highly recommend that book. It will give you all the science you can handle, from some very reliable quoted sources, and it's a pretty good book, regardless of your stance on evolution. Obviously, it is written by a "believer" but it is written from his perspective both as an agnostic and as a believer. I'd be interested to hear the opinion of an agnostic reader versus the opinions of those of us who believe already. Have a great weekend!

[Trav]

As an Atheist I say, "who cares again?"

[OzarkKid07]

As an Athiast I say, "who cares again?"

Actually, I care. And what religion is an Athiast? I've heard of ATHEISTS, but athiast is a new one. See you are religous Trav!

[Trav]

I stand corrected.

Thanx Webster, glad you care....I might mispell again in the future. Good to know your out there.

[Phil Lilley]

Ever hear about the dinosaur prints along side human foot prints in a creek bed in Texas?

[mark hedger]

As an Atheist I say, "who cares again?"

"I was going to be an Atheist until I found out they did not have any holidays" - Henny Youngman

[Danoinark]

"I was going to be an Atheist until I found out they did not have any holidays" - Henny Youngman

[OzarkKid07]

Ever hear about the dinosaur prints along side human foot prints in a creek bed in Texas?

I DID hear about that! I think that is really interesting, especially considering that, not even counting the fact that it brings up the case for human/dinosaur coexistence, it puts dinosaurs PRESENT on this planet in the last 25,000 years. That's gotta be devastating to evolutionary theory. Granted, I'm no expert on evolutionary theory. (I never really saw the point in becoming well-versed on a theory with as little scientific evidence to support it as evolution has. It would be like becoming an expert on the flat-earth theory that was held to be true for so long.) I think modern science gives itself a little too much credit in the wrong areas. I mean, we are looking for a "missing link" that will help prove that our great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents were apes and we can't even find a guy who is ALIVE and regularly makes VIDEO FOOTAGE of himself.

[Al Agnew]

Ummm....the dinosaur and human footprints have LONG been discredited, beyond any shadow of a doubt. If the only thing you ever read about it was in creationist literature, you might believe it to be true. But for a long time the owner of the tract upon which the prints were found in the creek bed wouldn't let scientists in to study them. When they were finally studied in depth, the "human" footprints were found to be eroded dinosaur prints. Remember that this is in a creek bed, so just like the potholes in places like the shut-ins in Missouri, gravel gets into crevices and erodes them into larger and more rounded depressions. The "human" footprints were worn into oval depressions with suggestions of "toes". You have to have a vivid imagination to believe they look a whole lot like human prints. And the clincher was, once the creek was diverted to expose MORE of the formation, it was possible to follow the "human" footprints, and where they were less eroded they were obviously dinosaur prints.

Ozarkkid...maybe you SHOULD become a bit more well-versed in evolutionary theory. It's just the basic theory underlying ALL the genetic and biological sciences. To say it has "so little evidence" is, to put it bluntly, ridiculous. There are vast amounts of evidence, including your "missing" links, in the fossil record. And, the "theory" of evolution not only has the evidence, it also has, at this point, ZERO evidence against it. And further, it is predictive, which means you can make predictions based upon it and investigate, and so far no predictions have ever been found not to be the case. If your human and dinosaur prints HAD been real, they would have most certainly discredited evolutionary theory. But so far, nothing like that has ever been found. You can predict that, in rocks of certain strata, you'll find certain fossils. You won't find dinosaurs in Cambrian strata. You won't find human fossils in Jurrasic strata.

And, once and for all, evolution does not say our ancestors were apes. It says that we and apes descended from a common ancestor. There is a big difference.

[Trav]

Point made AL!