Sarah Palin

[Danoinark]

Dano, did you respect the man who about 10 years ago looked you straight in the eye and lied to you on Nationwide TV with his stearn face and pointing finger. Someone who currently makes millions on his memoirs and could not remember anything under oath during his time in office. He ruined the oath and honor of the highest office in the land and still rakes in millions giving speeches.

We have paid for our past by voting popular opinion instead of what the person's core values and ideas are. We need more candidates with good moral values and pure hearts instead of talk and lies. We need to think out any decisions in the future, don't just vote for the lesser of 2 evils. And we should never vote just because of party lines.

Did I respect Bill Clinton in the office of President, yes...Do I question his morality absolutely. He did lie to the American public, his wife and family. Have other presidents told lies...heck yeah.

Watergate and R. Nixon come to mind. Did JFK admit to his infidelities although he was asked numerous times. LBJ, troops in Cambodia. Do other presidents make money from their memoirs and speaking engagements? You bet cha!

[twosets]

Jim

How about those fish. Where did you catch them?

[Seth]

As far as I can tell.....this country is screwed no matter who get's elected. Obama thinks gas should cost more than it already does and McCain is so rich that he thinks middle class people make 3 million a year. In my eyes, the economy is a lot more important than pro choice, smoking pot in high school, and so on.....

I have no idea who I am going to vote for this year. The more I think about it and listen to all of the BS.....the less I think that my vote will even make a difference.

[twosets]

this is the greatest country in the world, do not believe the nay sayers.

[Al Agnew]

thanks for the info on the issue of gay marriage, Dano...which, of course, shows another outright fallacy in those talking points.

Seems to me that way too many people only get their information from a source they already agree with, and take propaganda as truth without doing any digging on their own.

Bigredbirdfan...I hadn't really decided before it came down to Obama and Clinton. I liked Biden's intelligence on substantive issues the few times I heard him speak, and I think he might have made my first choice had he survived the early primaries. I think Hillary might have actually made the best President, but I knew she'd probably be too divisive just because of all the people who hate the very name Clinton. Obama was probably third on my list.

Obama impressed me in one big way, however. That ability to inspire. To give you a sports analogy, it's one of those "intangibles". Guy might not be the best athlete, but has some quality that makes him succeed. Sure, I'm not happy with Obama's lack of experience. However, there have been some other Presidents with little real experience throughout history...some turned out well, others didn't. Just as some of the Presidents with all kinds of military, legislative, and executive experience did well, others didn't. In my opinion, there is NO prior experience that can prepare you for the unique job of the Presidency. (Of all the early candidates, Hillary probably had the most valuable experience because she had already spent 8 years in the White House and would know exactly how things worked.) It really depends upon the people you surround yourself with, and how willing you are to listen to all the experts and all the viewpoints, and then come to an intelligent decision. Other than that, there are a lot of issues upon which the President can have a direct effect, but a lot of others where a President has to have the people and the legislature behind him to get it done. A successful leader is one who can inspire people to do what he thinks needs to be done, and sway them to his viewpoint. Whichever of these men that wins, he's going to have to get people to work together to solve the pressing problems we have. Party ideology just doesn't help. McCain HAS worked "across the aisles", so it would be interesting to see if he kind of pulls back from the hard-core conservatives if elected and shows that ability. Obama, I think, has the potential to do so--whether he actually would once elected is, as with McCain, a gamble.

As for the old history about Bill Clinton that jd brought up...after I found out that Clinton lied, yes, I had much less respect for him as a man. But, here's a thought...from pretty much the time he first took office, there were elements of the "opposition" who were out to damage him in any way they could. First it was an old real estate deal, then it morphed through several configurations and finally ended up investigating his...sex life? Please, tell me exactly WHY the country ended up spending millions on investigating this? In my opinion, investigating a sitting President for things having nothing to do with his present job, unless they are so obviously criminal that they really COULD make a huge difference in how he governs the country, shows little regard for the welfare of the country. All it does is weaken and distract the President from doing his job. Do you think it might have made a difference in how Clinton reacted to the early actions of bin Laden and company had he not been both distracted by all the investigations AND lacking the support of the vast majority of people in the country at that point on that issue. Do you honestly think that Clinton could have REALLY done what was necessary to get bin Laden...send in an invasion force into a sovereign country or at least seriously bomb the heck out of a sovereign country, without getting crucified by the public, the media, and the Republicans? It took 9-11 to show the public the true threat. Up until then, it was some ragheads on some far shore blowing up some people in the eyes of many.

And no, I was not in favor of investigating President Bush for anything not directly related to his actions and job performance as President, either.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Chief, what are Obama's credentials? I have dismissed him as a phoney and have not really researched him. I have not seen anything on him except he wants to change things.

Well, sometimes JD its not so much what somebody has done but, in what direction they want to lead to. I feel Obama has a far better destination that he wants to lead the country to.

[jdmidwest]

But what is that destination? What does he want to accomplish if he makes it to office? What are his plans to achieve the change?

[denjac]

I knew someone would find a name for

our election process for this year.

Electile Dysfunction: the inability to become aroused over any of the choices for President put forth by either party in the 2008 election year.

[twosets]

http://www.peteyandpetunia.com/VoteHere/VoteHere.htm

For those who may not have seen it , worth a look.

Al FYI Clinton did bomb several countries, in Africa when the Lewinski matter came to light for one.

He does not get a pass from me on Bin Laden, all he had to do was give the word and we could have 86ed him.

[Guest kevinkirk]

I believe Obama when he says he will raise taxes. And raise capital gains taxes to 50%. THAT alone will kill branson as the real estate there relies on ppl being able to sell their homes and keep the money and move there or other places without taxes on the gain. That law alone has made the housing boom what it is and helps seniors get out of their homes when they are no longer able to keep them and then have the money from the sale to take care of them for the rest of their lives.

I have sold a house under that law and it was so nice not to have to pay capital gains. if that remains the same, i plan on building 5 more homes in the Branson area in the next ten years and doing the same. What a great deal for ppl who are industrious and not lazy to make money.

kk