denjac Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Just heard part of a story about a boat blowing up this weekend on Taney. Dont know if it was a fueling accident or what. I do know it is getting more frequent on all lakes and the problem is the ethanol monster eating holes in the fuel lines. Dennis Boothe Joplin Mo. For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." ~ Winston Churchill ~
fishinwrench Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Just heard part of a story about a boat blowing up this weekend on Taney. Dont know if it was a fueling accident or what. I do know it is getting more frequent on all lakes and the problem is the ethanol monster eating holes in the fuel lines. In all fairness, there IS considerable media brainwash concerning ethanol. I work in the marine repair field and I can't say at this time that I have seen an increase in fuel leaks. The "lack of maintanance monster" is still the leading cause of fuel leaks IMO
Bman Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Fishinwrench, Other than going to a marina, are you aware of a way to locate ethanol free gasoline in any particular area of Mo. Like by zip code? The only good line is a tight line
fishinwrench Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 Fishinwrench, Other than going to a marina, are you aware of a way to locate ethanol free gasoline in any particular area of Mo. Like by zip code? No Sir I'm not. Furthermore, I'm not convinced that getting fuel ANYWHERE guarantees no blending. I find it really odd that nobody speaks, or seems concerned about the price of crude (per/bbl) anymore (like they were this time last year)....Why do you think that is ?
denjac Posted May 19, 2009 Author Posted May 19, 2009 Fishinwrench, Other than going to a marina, are you aware of a way to locate ethanol free gasoline in any particular area of Mo. Like by zip code? Dont believe there is any In Missouri. Its mandated everything in the state be 10%. They want to raise it to 15%. Oh by the way our former governor"s brother owns ethanol plants. . fact: ethanol lowers gas mileage on cars by 15% 20 %, Ethanol draws moisture into the gas, ethanol raises engine temperture, ethanol does deteriate certain rubber O rings, gaskets and hoses. Raises idle speeds notice how your weed eater ildes so fast now you can trim at idle. Its not a good deal and needs to be removed from the market. Wonder how much fossil fuel it takes to produce ethanol? Dennis Boothe Joplin Mo. For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." ~ Winston Churchill ~
Members yummysmokedham Posted May 23, 2009 Members Posted May 23, 2009 Dont believe there is any In Missouri. Its mandated everything in the state be 10%. They want to raise it to 15%. Oh by the way our former governor"s brother owns ethanol plants. . fact: ethanol lowers gas mileage on cars by 15% 20 %, Ethanol draws moisture into the gas, ethanol raises engine temperture, ethanol does deteriate certain rubber O rings, gaskets and hoses. Raises idle speeds notice how your weed eater ildes so fast now you can trim at idle. Its not a good deal and needs to be removed from the market. Wonder how much fossil fuel it takes to produce ethanol? I am no engine expert, but I have heard that ethanol is horrible on 2 cycle engines. I would be curious if anyone knows much about this. BTW I have been trying to get my boat gas in Oklahoma, they pride themselves in having ethanol free gas.
fishinwrench Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 I am no engine expert, but I have heard that ethanol is horrible on 2 cycle engines. I would be curious if anyone knows much about this. BTW I have been trying to get my boat gas in Oklahoma, they pride themselves in having ethanol free gas. Like I stated earlier, media brainwash takes some conscience to avoid. The key word in this discussion is "ethanol". Stating that a fuel source is free of ethanol does not mean that it is also free of methanol, or Alcohol (as an additive to raise octane,.... as an additive to meet regulation,.....or as a detergent ingredient). I'd be willing to bet heavily that ethanol, methanol, and/or alcohol free fuel is very very rare now. Alcoh'ol (emphasis on the suffix 'ol) ...in any of its many forms is the corrosive agent most are concerned about. So I don't think it pays to run around wasting your time and money looking for ______'ol-free fuel.
mclothier1 Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 We had a similar accident here this weekend... boat fire Not exactly sure what the cause was, but it had to be fuel related. My question is, I have a 97 Glastron GS205 with the tank in the belly, exactly how would I go about checking the integrity of the fill line, and line to the engine without tearing the floor out of the boat? is it even possible to check?
fishinwrench Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 We had a similar accident here this weekend... boat fire Not exactly sure what the cause was, but it had to be fuel related. My question is, I have a 97 Glastron GS205 with the tank in the belly, exactly how would I go about checking the integrity of the fill line, and line to the engine without tearing the floor out of the boat? is it even possible to check? The fill hose is reasonably safe since fuel only passes over it momentarily, same with the vent hose. The fuel supply hose (to the engine) can obviously be inspected from where it connects to the engine fuel pump and forward as far as it can be reached. Most boats have a removable floor plate that allows access to the fuel level sensor (sender) ....inspect that rubber gasket ! Keep your bilge area clean and tidy. Neatly tack up all loose wires and any butt connector splices laying in the bilge area (wires that go to the bilge pump, blower, ect.) and inspect the bilge often for signs of any obvious leaks or accumulating residue from slow seeping leaks. Keep batterys in battery boxes and keep battery connections clean and tight, and the battery boxes strapped down good and solid. Can't begin to tell you how many boats I see with batterys sliding around in the bilge area...or setting unstrapped in those cheesy little plastic battery trays with loose and corroded terminals. Common sense should tell you not to install batterys like that.... not in your truck, not in your lawn tractor, and certainly not in your boat. Secure battery(s) so that even if the boat flips upside down the batterys will stay put and stay connected. Marine designed starters, solenoids, relays, alternators, pumps, ect. are all sealed from emitting sparks, so if you keep all other electrical connections clean, tight, protected and out of harms way..... there should be nothing to ignite any potential vapors. Boat fires are 99.9% the result of improper maintenance, or shoddy mechanical work. This is one of the many areas where marine mechanics, and aviation mechanics are trained differently than auto mechanics....Attention to detail.
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