Coe Q? What About Bull & Beaver

[dtrs5kprs]

Ok, if COE is pulling T-Rock, what are they planning to do about Bull and Beaver? Looking at the level stickies it looks like they have not started to pull Beaver (still rising?) and are using Bull as the usual bath tub.

Won't they have to pull Beaver at some point? And won't that dump an awful lot of cold water into the Rock?

Have a 10 day trip in a couple of weeks and would love high water, as long as it is not too chilly?

[Bill Babler]

Don't totally follow your logic for loving the high water this time of the year. Table Rock fishes fantastic at 910 in the Fall, really tremendious. It puts mid-lake humps at 26 to 36 and exposes cedar tops over the entire lake. It defines rolloffs and gravel flats in that magic 22 to 32 ft. range with dramatic drops to the main channel on the swings and transitions.

Don't for a moment think that huge quanities of fish are going to follow this water up, it may happen some places, but not to a huge extent here. Yes, there will be some in the flooded bushes, but there will be more on the origional bank line, and it will be much harder to find.

Also, even if the fish have followed it up, if they continue to drop the lake and you know they will, this further sucks the fish off the bank. It may give us a little blade bite, but it is going to make my deep Fall Small Jaw bite much tougher.

For most of us that fish here everyday, this is just about as sour of grapes as we could have gotten, as the Rock was just a fixin to turn on big time.

[Spinnaker]

Bill, your analysis sounds like bad news for my early Nov. trip. I was hoping for an exciting fall trip especially for the smallies.

[dtrs5kprs]

I was thinking about the river fish, hoping it might turn some blacks on, but concerned about high-cold-dirty from Baxter to the dam. No doubt that would trash the deep bite.

Personally, I'd rather catch them on a spoon and a grub, but am trying to see a plus to the additional water, especially if COE dumps Beaver.

[Bill Babler]

Let's take a wait and see attitude. High water levels in the Fall are never good for Table Rock. It completely eliminates any difination as far as structure.

If the water is high, the Corp's will indeed try to get below the magic 915 mark. I don't know anyone that like to fish dropping water levels. It just ain't happenin.

Table Rock fishes the best during stable conditions. From now thru Dec on stable water or just normal Taneycomo generation, there is not a deep bite, but a midrange 26 ft. bottom jig bite that is quite possibly the best bite that the rock has all year. Got a feeling it is not goin to happen this year.

If conditions are right, all three of our Black Bass Species can be caught fishing crayfish bottom crawlers from now till even January. I am just worried with the loss of a bank line and the water being sucked out from under them, it might be a bit of a challange.

[dtrs5kprs]

Thanks Bill. I still feel the fickle finger of fate pointing at us from Beaver Lake. That water will have to go somewhere.

How are the temps doing? Can't recall the last time we had cool weather this early.

[techo]

Don't totally follow your logic for loving the high water this time of the year. Table Rock fishes fantastic at 910 in the Fall, really tremendious. It puts mid-lake humps at 26 to 36 and exposes cedar tops over the entire lake. It defines rolloffs and gravel flats in that magic 22 to 32 ft. range with dramatic drops to the main channel on the swings and transitions.

Don't for a moment think that huge quanities of fish are going to follow this water up, it may happen some places, but not to a huge extent here. Yes, there will be some in the flooded bushes, but there will be more on the origional bank line, and it will be much harder to find.

Also, even if the fish have followed it up, if they continue to drop the lake and you know they will, this further sucks the fish off the bank. It may give us a little blade bite, but it is going to make my deep Fall Small Jaw bite much tougher.

For most of us that fish here everyday, this is just about as sour of grapes as we could have gotten, as the Rock was just a fixin to turn on big time.

Errr....please disregard my thoughts posted on the "Table Rock to Rise 11 feet" topic then....sorry

Just when I thought I knew something and could share too!

Thanks for sharing Bill!

[dtrs5kprs]

Errr....please disregard my thoughts posted on the "Table Rock to Rise 11 feet" topic then....sorry

Just when I thought I knew something and could share too!

Thanks for sharing Bill!

Didn't we have a pretty solid wart bite last Nov after similar water issues? But then again my best Nov days have either been fishing a spoon for K's out of Baxter or nasty day blade fishing around the Knob. Always lots of ways to catch fish, and that is why I love this lake.

[Whack'emGood]

Cold, high water... YUCK!

Fall is pretty much shot. It is really bad at Stockton too... fishing was getting REALLY GOOD up there until this happened.

I don't mean to be negative but... CRAP!

Whack'em

[Spinnaker]

Cold, high water... YUCK!

Fall is pretty much shot. It is really bad at Stockton too... fishing was getting REALLY GOOD up there until this happened.

I don't mean to be negative but... CRAP!

Whack'em

From other posts it appears that some folks are having some relative success. Are you having extremely bad luck in general or is your luck just been bad for this time of year compared to previous years. I think I am going to come down the first week of November and hope for the best. They are still drawing water down at a significant clip but hopefully they will stop sometime this week and things might settle down. What is the water temp you are getting? Thanks (formerly kcangler)