Lead Ban On All Fishing Tackle

[Chief Grey Bear]

Possibly just Cabela's subtle way of asking everyone to stockpile so they can reduce their current inventory of lead products.

The lead ban threat has been a controversy for over 20 years now....I find it almost impossible to get stressed out, or even concerned about it anymore.

We had a similar discussion, last year I think, when the DNR, I think, ban lead on its waters. Heck I can't remember, I'll look back and see if I can find it.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Here it is.

http://ozarkanglers.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16545

[gotmuddy]

And so is plutonium and uranium. Try a spoonfull of one of those.

I am not eating lead. It is in the ground all over the place.

[eric1978]

I am not eating lead. It is in the ground all over the place.

I bet you wouldn't like it if I hid some in your cornbread. Ask a waterfowl what it's like.

[Guest]

I'm all for keeping lead, pouring my own jigs, etc.

In fact steel shot has wounded so many ducks, that you've got to shoot a whole box of shells to kill a limit.

When lead shot was legal, a solid kill was made. Now, just wound the hell out of them and they die a slow death.

I love tungsten weights, but they are too costly for jigs/spinnerbaits/weighted hooks.

I'm keeping my lead....

Oh and lead doesn't cause birth defects outside CA. LOL

[Stockton Lake Guide Service]

Sorry, but I would support a ban on lead. It's bad for the environment, period. And if you care about fishing, you should care about the environment. Yes, it would temporarily make pouring heads and tying some flies a little problematic, but someone somewhere would quickly create an alternative metal that won't lead to birth defects in California. Might be more expensive...too bad. Paying a little extra to keep our planet clean is worth it. So get on it and make yourself a millionaire...where's your entrepreneurial spirit Mr. America?

And yes, you're free shockley...but none of us should be free to pollute the world our kids have to grow up in.

Well I can't say that I agree with you. I believe that people (at least for the most part) that fish do care about the environment, they just don't believe all the hype about everything is bad. but then you go onto say that someone somewhere would quickly create an alternative metal. Who invented lead?? The answer is God. It's been used for thousands of years for fishing and other things. There is no evidence that lead weights hurt the environment. Neither humans or fish show any ill effect of lead use from fishing so to suggest that people that don't support the ban do not care about the environment is a false statement. The lead problems in fish seem to come from lead runoff from mines and natural causes when areas are high in lead concentratuion, not from me breaking off a 5 lb bass. The lead used in shotgun shells are sometimes eaten by birds and waterfowl and have caused problems, which is why they banned it for waterfowl hunting. I'm not sure what type of metal man is capable of creating without using the substances that are already here on earth, and it seems that Algore has already determined that these are toxic and cause global warming. And there is no evidence what so ever that my lead weight has anything to do with the "birth defects in California." From what I've seen it looks like most of these problems are caused by liberals and smoking to much weed. Our govt already has enough control over us, we need to quit allowing them to control everything about us.

In your other post you say that the only reason you use lead is because there is no alternative. When you fish plastics what type of weight do you use? There are alternatives, but I don't know many people that NEVER use any lead weights. And I would guess that even though there are alternatives, you still use lead in cases where you have another choice, so before you go condemning everyone else for ruining the planet, you need to make sure that you delouse your own closet first. If you truly believed that using lead was bad for the environment, and you were against the use of it, then you should quit fishing in situations that require it's use. Personally, I don't see a problem with it's use and don't have any problems with people that use lead.

It does not appear nor is there any proof that lead weights cause a problem in our lakes or streams, if it was that big of a problem then our fish would already be gone, and we would be eating chicken for dinner.

I don't go dumping oil, or trying to pollute the environment, but we need to draw the line somewhere. Since lead has always been here, and we just take it out of the earth and make stuff out of it, then what keeps the birds and fish from still being exposed as the lead runoff enters our lakes and streams, or the birds eat from areas where the lead concentration is high?

Even the bible speaks about lead in Exodus 15:10 "But you blew with your breath, and the sea covered them. They sank like lead in the mighty waters." But the environmentalist would probably say this was just the first documented case of lead poisoning. It's my guess that they just got a little to much lead paint when they were kids.

Until there is a cost effective alternative, or until the powers to be outlaw it, I will continue to use lead and do so without any guilty feelings that I am hurting the environment. And at this point in this country, our kids will have a lot more to worry about than cleaning up our lead weights when they get older.

[Stockton Lake Guide Service]

I bet you wouldn't like it if I hid some in your cornbread. Ask a waterfowl what it's like.

The only waterfowl I've ever seen talk was donald duck and I never heard him complain about lead.

[gotmuddy]

The group that is seeking the ban is a hardcore anti ANYTHING liberal group that wants all things to stop.

[Stockton Lake Guide Service]

The group that is seeking the ban is a hardcore anti ANYTHING liberal group that wants all things to stop.

Then I say we start a group that bans all liberal groups that are interested in banning anything that we don't want banned.

[gotmuddy]

Then I say we start a group that bans all liberal groups that are interested in banning anything that we don't want banned.

I agree, however keeping our freedoms ranks below saving a (insert tiny insect here)