City Park Public Access

[troutbum479]

Not knowing that i was trespassing, i have fished the hole upstream of the dairy farm a few times with no problem what so ever. I'm not saying that its ok to trespass. I now recall a barbed wire fence on the east side of the creek just before the last hole before the dairy farm.

[Trout Commander]

My mistake. It was the one coke with two straws that threw me.

I don't think it was the coke, nor the two straws, but the the "other" ingredient. I've had a few brews watching this NLCS game so I can ewelate ro ytou. Seriously though I can still rypr jst fnie.

[parachiteadams39]

As you come down stream from the Trestle as soon as there's an open, over grown field to the right of the creek (with about 20 yards of woods between creek and field) you are trespassing.

If you look at this area on Google maps, follow highway 413 out of town. Just where it bends to the southeast there is a rectangular building/parking lot on the east side of the road. (This is the big Funeral Home there.) If you go due east from there on the map you will see an isolated field just on east side of the railroad tracks. This field is private property, all of the creek to the east of it is private and all of the creek all the way down to Swinging Bridge Road is private.

Another way to look at it is that there's about 500 yards of actual creek available downstream from the trestle. This might be hard to reckon given the changes in direction, but if you were to reckon 300 yards you would probably be ok.

Another way -- if you have a compass -- is at the downstream end of city-owned land the creek heads E-NE and then turns back pretty sharply to the SE. At this turn you are about 100 feet up stream of private property.

With the greatest respect it is up to those of us who use the creek to make sure we know the boundaries. That's why it's so great that this question got asked in the first place. If you're not sure whether it's public or private you should assume it's private and fish elsewhere. The more private property is abused the more owners will close it alogether, even to people who ask.

[drew03cmc]

This adds some light on a shady topic. I am fascinated to learn of this.

[Gallagher]

So,... when you're saying "trestle" are you referring to the vicinity of the Railroad Bridge Hole on the edge of town as noted on the map? Thanks!

[FishinCricket]

As you come down stream from the Trestle as soon as there's an open, over grown field to the right of the creek (with about 20 yards of woods between creek and field) you are trespassing.

If you look at this area on Google maps, follow highway 413 out of town. Just where it bends to the southeast there is a rectangular building/parking lot on the east side of the road. (This is the big Funeral Home there.) If you go due east from there on the map you will see an isolated field just on east side of the railroad tracks. This field is private property, all of the creek to the east of it is private and all of the creek all the way down to Swinging Bridge Road is private.

Another way to look at it is that there's about 500 yards of actual creek available downstream from the trestle. This might be hard to reckon given the changes in direction, but if you were to reckon 300 yards you would probably be ok.

Another way -- if you have a compass -- is at the downstream end of city-owned land the creek heads E-NE and then turns back pretty sharply to the SE. At this turn you are about 100 feet up stream of private property.

With the greatest respect it is up to those of us who use the creek to make sure we know the boundaries. That's why it's so great that this question got asked in the first place. If you're not sure whether it's public or private you should assume it's private and fish elsewhere. The more private property is abused the more owners will close it alogether, even to people who ask.

lol, you think maybe you could ask the owners (or the city of Crane) to put up some signs or something? I'd hate to be the subject of someone's target practice..

[troutfiend1985]

Maybe I should put out there in hopes that a person who knows the people who own this property will tell them that you do not have the right to defend property with the use of deadly force. Also, I would think that a sign would be in order to make sure that we know when we are tresspassing.

[drew03cmc]

Maybe I should put out there in hopes that a person who knows the people who own this property will tell them that you do not have the right to defend property with the use of deadly force. Also, I would think that a sign would be in order to make sure that we know when we are tresspassing.

It is not anyone else's responsibility to let you know you are trespassing. It is your responsibility. Most Ozark folks are nice enough that if you ask or even play dumb, they will give you a pass on it.

[troutfiend1985]

It is not anyone else's responsibility to let you know you are trespassing. It is your responsibility. Most Ozark folks are nice enough that if you ask or even play dumb, they will give you a pass on it.

Yes, you are right that you don't have to post your property, but I would think if I owned that property I would post a sign on there in order to let people know that they are tresspassing. Obviously the public/private line isn't well known, I never knew it ended at this particular area and most people on this forum did not know either. So Drew, you're right about the owners not having a responsibility to post, but I would think that an owner who is worried about their property being tresspassed on would post a sign.

[FishinCricket]

It is not anyone else's responsibility to let you know you are trespassing. It is your responsibility. Most Ozark folks are nice enough that if you ask or even play dumb, they will give you a pass on it.

Odd, I thought it was the landowners responsibility to post no tresspassing signs (or purple marks on trees/fenceposts)... Right?