Indicator Position

[Mitch f]

Want me to give you a ride over to the nursing home? Sounds like you're done.

I've come to believe there are far more non-fly fishermen talking about fly-fishing snobs than there are actual fly-fishing snobs. As a matter of fact, I can't really think of anyone who is a snob, but this topic comes up all the time here.

The different lingo has developed because the processes are different. It's not in an attempt to elevate one method over another. There's a real difference between a typical bobber and a typical indicator. And, that's because the thing on the end of the line is different.

It really doesn't matter anyway, in 10 years fishing as we know it today will be gone unless something is done about the silver carp. We will be left fishing for stocked rainbow trout at the parks. I'm serious, based on what I have seen this year and the fast rate at which they are coming, the rivers that I fish are done in 10 years. Remember I'm not wading, I run a jet boat and can easily cover 20 miles in one day. I think the Big river and probably even the Bourbeuse are gone even quicker than that. They only way I can see to stop them is to kill all the fish in the river and restock the river. I've heard the juvenile silver carp look just like a shad. People will seine for these and bring them into a lake to use them as baitfish.

[Al Agnew]

Well, maybe there's some snob language. I don't know most of it. In fact, I don't even know a lot of what the average fly fisherman seems to know when it comes to vocabulary. Some things are somewhat self-explanatory, like blue winged olive (until it's shortened to BWO). But it took me a really long time to figure out the difference between baetis and calibaetus.

Of course, when you really want to sound snobby, just call egg flies "fetal emergers".

[Trout Commander]

Of course, when you really want to sound snobby, just call egg flies "fetal emergers".

[ness]

Like I always say, 'Superior sum vobis quia Latine loqui'

[Mitch f]

Like I always say, 'Superior sum vobis quia Latine loqui'

superior spin piscatores

[FishinCricket]

In all my many moons I've never met a snob who was aware of their snobbiness...

[ozark trout fisher]

It really doesn't matter anyway, in 10 years fishing as we know it today will be gone unless something is done about the silver carp. We will be left fishing for stocked rainbow trout at the parks. I'm serious, based on what I have seen this year and the fast rate at which they are coming, the rivers that I fish are done in 10 years. Remember I'm not wading, I run a jet boat and can easily cover 20 miles in one day. I think the Big river and probably even the Bourbeuse are gone even quicker than that. They only way I can see to stop them is to kill all the fish in the river and restock the river. I've heard the juvenile silver carp look just like a shad. People will seine for these and bring them into a lake to use them as baitfish.

No need to be so gloomy about it. No doubt we have plenty of problems to deal with, but the moment we admit that we are going to lose it all is the moment we can be sure that will happen. It's better to get mad and try to fix as many problems as we can than to get depressed about it-and those are really the only two options these days for a fisherman.

Cricket, I don't get how so many spin-fisherman think of fly-guys as snobs. It's the bass fisherman that are talking about satellite uplinks, drop-shots, thermoclines, $30,000 boats, and Carolina rigs.

I just fish a little brown fuzzy thing under a bobber and wait for said bobber to go under or move upstream. And sometimes I do this wearing funny looking rubber pants.

[Mitch f]

No need to be so gloomy about it. No doubt we have plenty of problems to deal with, but the moment we admit that we are going to lose it all is the moment we can be sure that will happen. It's better to get mad and try to fix things then to get depressed about it-and those are really the only two options these days for a fisherman.

If you have some suggestions lets unite and get mad about it! I don't see any change in direction for the carp situation. It's like a fast moving train that won't stop.

I wish there was a way to stop them and I will be all for volunteering my time and effort to help stop this problem.

[Greg]

If you have some suggestions lets unite and get mad about it! I don't see any change in direction for the carp situation. It's like a fast moving train that won't stop.

I wish there was a way to stop them and I will be all for volunteering my time and effort to help stop this problem.

I'd like to hear from some others (like Al Agnew). Is the carp situation really that bad? I live in SW Missouri and I haven't noticed it yet. I've definitely noticed the spotted bass invasion but really haven't seen a problem with carp?

Greg

[Terry Beeson]

...when you really want to sound snobby, just call egg flies "fetal emergers".

Thanks Al... I needed that this morning...

So... How far above the fly should you put your indicator?

Oh wait... I forgot... this thread is about elitist fly anglers introducing invasive silver carp into Missouri streams by learning something new at the rest home in a jet boat... ... right?

(Don't mind me... the steroids are still talking...)