Multi-language regulation signs

[Phil Lilley]

You see them all over, esp in the high tourist areas of Yellowstone, Calif. and Florida - multi-lingual signs for tourist. Branson, if they expect to attract foreigners, needs to take this into consideration.

MDC should do the same. With the influx of Mexicans in the area, they should change their signs to english and spanish so that there's no question.

And while they're changing the signs, make them bigger, bright colors and make more of them. Nix the enviro-friendly dark brown signs for hunter's orange. And state- bold!!

No Live Bait (worms, minnows, corn, salmon eggs)

No Soft, Scented Baits (marshmallows, dough bait, soft nuggets or eggs)

No Soft, Scented Plastic Baits (plastic grubs, plastic worms, ...)

Do Not Keep Rainbows 12 to 20 inches (make this huge and bold).

This area is patrolled frequently and these rules are STRICTLY ENFORCED!!!

MDC needs to get tough with their signs.

[MoCarp]

I live in an area where the hispanic population went from non-exsistant to 30% in 10 years

most --KNOW the rules, infact some even hand the kids a pop can with some line and a hook so they can keep an extra limit--we see it ALL the time--enforcement won't work they just don't pay or don't come to court--

but some states like Kansas confiscates gear THAT does work--its about econonomics--live here as cheap as possable--move back after a few years and live off the money like a king--I have seen some fishing spots on the Elk River turned into AQUATIC WASTE LANDS because of the abuse--until this illegal immigration thing is fixed you will see more and more of it..

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[Snow Fly]

At the tone please Press #1 for Spanish or #2 for English.

[Wayne SW/MO]

I agree Phil, but I would add one more,"Leave no Trash" or what ever gets the message across in their language.

[Bob A]

Have to agree with all the above! And folks, "you ain't seen nothin' yet', considering how the whole area is growing. In my mind, as much as I'd like to see multi-language signs, I'd also like to point out that the illegal fishing, poaching, etc, is certainly not limited to the non-English bunch who I also suspect are engating in a bit of commercial fishing, providing fresh trout to local restaurants. At the same time, we also see this from many out of state/out of town fishing folks who also pay no attention at all to the signs, make no effort to learn the regulations, and in many cases, think they are exempt from license and trout stamp requirements. And worst of all, we also see this a lot from our local, home-grown "fishermen" who probably think that since they are locals and their families have been poaching for generations, that this makes it acceptable. In summary, all the signs in the world will not change this. It is going to take enforcement, plain and simple! I know the MDC agents, given theie limited numbers and resources simply cannot keep up with this and I have always had the net impression that the political appointees at MDC do not really consider enforcement to be a priority issue. I can come to no other conclusion, seeing that I fish Taneycome about 100 days a year and have only personally observed an MDC agent in the Rocking Chair area once in over 4 years.

Bob A

[Snow Fly]

The photograph that Phil posted a couple of days ago demonstrates that these violations are not confined to non-english speaking people. It reminds me of my extremely younger days when there were few limits on fish and numbers determined how good of a fisherman you were. Times have changed, people need to realize there is more to the sport than numbers. I'm sure there are people in this country dependent on wildlife for a large part of their food supply. This is not to defend their actions but I think a small group of people fit in this category. All we can do is try and educate people that these resourses can no longer be taken for granted.

[Phil Lilley]

I hope there's no poachers reading this forum...

Agents use the best devices available to observe anglers below the dam... day or night. I mentioned them being able to tell what color scud you're using... he could be 1000 yards away. Think of fishing at night below the dam all by your lonesome... but wait, an agent is watching whether or not you're putting fish on a stringer or up in the bushes. And he sees you like it's daytime.

I promise- they are watching... and if you're not doing anything wrong- you might not ever see them.

[Kansas Fly Fisher]

I agree with Phil, I spent several summers working with the KDWP and we spent most of our time in the bushes watching with spotting scopes. We knew who was fishing, with what, and how many they had caught before we ever approached them. We even spent some time in civilian clothes fishing in a boat. One would fish, the other was watching over the other's shoulder with scopes. It works, and it works very well.

[Fozzy]

I know the agents are probably Overworked and Understaffed like the rest of us. However, being a boat fisherman below Fall Creek area always, I have never seen a Game warden there or been checked. I am always legal in my boat, trout stamp and MO licence there.

I do wish i would see more of the agents, I agree there are some "people" awwwwww i mean CRIMINALS that don't care about the rules. "I'm going fishing and i will do whatever i wanna" is the attitude.

I agree there needs to be some bi-lingual signs!

[BWO]

Question - As an out of stater, I have always purchased a non resident license, however I was told by the person at WallyWorld that I didn't need a trout stamp even after I told him that I would only be fishing for trout and asked him if he was sure about this, is this true or untrue? I have not been able to find anything that contradicts what I was told.

I know in Oklahoma, a non resident must purchase a trout stamp in addition to a license.