denjac Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 I am glad they are doing some work on this . Big Indian ran red last spring when we had rain . Jim Shirato, developer of the Indian Ridge Resort project in Stone County, says he doesn't understand why the state has sued him for alleged runoff pollution of Table Rock Lake. Shirato said he has a remediation plan in place with the Missouri Department of Natural Resources, and crews have been working to halt erosion for days."We moved heavy equipment out here in November,'' Shirato said Tuesday. "As I'm standing here, I'm looking at crews from Empire Electric, three backhoes, large earthmovers and a dozen men and trucks delivering loads of dirt and rock." Attorney General Chris Koster filed the lawsuit Tuesday against Shirato and Donald Snider, managing member of North Shore Investments LLC, who planned a $1.6 billion, 850-acre development located near Branson West. The site is less than a mile upstream of Table Rock Lake. In the lawsuit, Koster said no work has taken place at the site since August 2008, when the developers' bank failed and was taken over by the FDIC. He alleged that runoff from the property washed sediment into Table Rock Lake with each rain. "Every developer in our state is aware of the obligation to ensure the environmental integrity of their development sites," Koster said, in a news release. "This office will aggressively pursue any developers who show disregard for our environmental laws." The development was to include hundreds of homes, condominiums, an eight-story hotel, water park, golf course, conference center and retail shopping and restaurants. Koster is asking the court to issue an order requiring the defendants to comply with the Clean Water Law; to assess a civil penalty not to exceed $10,000 per day for each violation of the Clean Water Law; to pay for their damage to Table Rock Lake, and to require the defendants to pay all costs associated with the case. Shirato said he hired Heithaus Engineering and Associates of Springfield to develop a remediation plan in conjunction with DNR. Owner Ken Heithaus said crews have been repairing drainage ditches and detention dams that have washed out from rainfall, covering some areas with soil and seed and putting down rock to keep runoff from reaching the lake. He said DNR will require Shirato to maintain the runoff controls after they are in place. Nancy Gonder, spokeswoman for Koster's office, called the work "a step in the right direction." However, she said the work would not stop the lawsuit from proceeding. Gonder also said the clock for potential daily fines began ticking "the day the Missouri Clean Water Law was violated." Because work on Indian Ridge halted in 2008, the potential fine could be huge. However, if fines were eventually levied, Gonder said, Koster's office "would take into account good faith efforts on the developers' behalf to resolve the situation." Dennis Boothe Joplin Mo. For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." ~ Winston Churchill ~
Billfo Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 Where is this suppose to be ? Are we talking Big Indian Creeksw of Baxter Marina RIGHT WHERE I BOUGHT MY HOUSE ?????? I am glad they are doing some work on this . Big Indian ran red last spring when we had rain . Jim Shirato, developer of the Indian Ridge Resort project in Stone County, says he doesn't understand why the state has sued him for alleged runoff pollution of Table Rock Lake. Shirato said he has a remediation plan in place with the Missouri Department of Natural Resources, and crews have been working to halt erosion for days."We moved heavy equipment out here in November,'' Shirato said Tuesday. "As I'm standing here, I'm looking at crews from Empire Electric, three backhoes, large earthmovers and a dozen men and trucks delivering loads of dirt and rock." Attorney General Chris Koster filed the lawsuit Tuesday against Shirato and Donald Snider, managing member of North Shore Investments LLC, who planned a $1.6 billion, 850-acre development located near Branson West. The site is less than a mile upstream of Table Rock Lake. In the lawsuit, Koster said no work has taken place at the site since August 2008, when the developers' bank failed and was taken over by the FDIC. He alleged that runoff from the property washed sediment into Table Rock Lake with each rain. "Every developer in our state is aware of the obligation to ensure the environmental integrity of their development sites," Koster said, in a news release. "This office will aggressively pursue any developers who show disregard for our environmental laws." The development was to include hundreds of homes, condominiums, an eight-story hotel, water park, golf course, conference center and retail shopping and restaurants. Koster is asking the court to issue an order requiring the defendants to comply with the Clean Water Law; to assess a civil penalty not to exceed $10,000 per day for each violation of the Clean Water Law; to pay for their damage to Table Rock Lake, and to require the defendants to pay all costs associated with the case. Shirato said he hired Heithaus Engineering and Associates of Springfield to develop a remediation plan in conjunction with DNR. Owner Ken Heithaus said crews have been repairing drainage ditches and detention dams that have washed out from rainfall, covering some areas with soil and seed and putting down rock to keep runoff from reaching the lake. He said DNR will require Shirato to maintain the runoff controls after they are in place. Nancy Gonder, spokeswoman for Koster's office, called the work "a step in the right direction." However, she said the work would not stop the lawsuit from proceeding. Gonder also said the clock for potential daily fines began ticking "the day the Missouri Clean Water Law was violated." Because work on Indian Ridge halted in 2008, the potential fine could be huge. However, if fines were eventually levied, Gonder said, Koster's office "would take into account good faith efforts on the developers' behalf to resolve the situation." (function(){ GEL.thepage.initializer.addInitRoutine({ name: "pagination", callback: initPaginator, namespace: ["widget.GELTabs", "widget.AdBanner", "anim.YUIAnimator", "analytics"], priority: 10});function initPaginator(){ GEL.thepage.artpg= new GEL.widget.GELTabs("artpagination", { changeEvent: "click", viewtrackevent: "paneChange", wrap: false, scrollAnchor: document.body, autoRotate:false, positionBanners: true, activeIndex:0 }); GEL.thepage.artpg.init(); }})(); Email me Red-Right-Returning is for quitters !
Champ188 Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 No, this is the Indian Creek on the north shore of the lake between Kimberling City and the dam.
Billfo Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 No, this is the Indian Creek on the north shore of the lake between Kimberling City and the dam. WHEW. At first i thought it was in MY COVE !!! YIPES... !!!!! Thanks.. Nice to see new deveolpement in the area. More tourists, more activity, more interest, better property values Email me Red-Right-Returning is for quitters !
flipper Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 WHEW. At first i thought it was in MY COVE !!! YIPES... !!!!! Thanks.. Nice to see new deveolpement in the area. More tourists, more activity, more interest, better property values Sorry, that development will prob. never be much more than it is right now ,one major eye sore that will in all likelyhood continue to stain Tablerock.The developers sold the old growth timber that was on that property and ran. should be a crime imo.
Billfo Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Oh I see.. This was all new news to me.. Didnt hear about that when we were house hunting.. Wonder whatelse is going on. We have been reading "The Rattler"- but limited info there !The only antenna TV we get is 2 Arkansas stations.. It will have to do until we move in full time in a a few years & get a dish. Sorry, that development will prob. never be much more than it is right now ,one major eye sore that will in all likelyhood continue to stain Tablerock.The developers sold the old growth timber that was on that property and ran. should be a crime imo. Email me Red-Right-Returning is for quitters !
Martin Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I believe, but could possibly be wrong, that the Indian Creeks we're talking about are technically named "North Indian Creek" and "Little North Indian Creek".... And Billfo...You may change your tune when you see the boat traffic, roadway traffic, etc. on and around the lake. The heck with more tourists !! lol
Billfo Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I believe, but could possibly be wrong, that the Indian Creeks we're talking about are technically named "North Indian Creek" and "Little North Indian Creek".... And Billfo...You may change your tune when you see the boat traffic, roadway traffic, etc. on and around the lake. The heck with more tourists !! lol Martin, That is a very good point. Id rather have my home stay the same & no one build next to me I get some water ski'r & jet ski's, but not too bad.. Now the water is down, iF they seen the trees sticking out of the water where they were having their water fun- they wouldn't be back ! I am surprised I haven't seen someone loose a lower unit yet.(heck I am surprised "I" have not busted mine off) I know I wont tube my kids behind my place. I trust you didn't get any storm damage ? I am going to come down for a few days in a couple of weeks- check things over. Email me Red-Right-Returning is for quitters !
Gone Fishing Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Billfo, your Indians faired much better than the Indians on the other end of the lake.
skeeter Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Martin...you are right about the correct names for "North Indian Creek" vs. "Big" and "Little" Indian Creek in the Baxter area. No amount of fines (which they will never collect a single dollar of) can remediate that infusion of silt that continues with every gully washer. Wonder how many spawing banks it has already covered ? Billfo...Kind of an eye-opener isn't it about submerged timber becoming exposed with lower water levels ? I keep seeing skiers and tubers getting towed right over the tops of barely submerged pole timber and praying that no one get's seriously injured. The erosion from that ill-advised Indian Ridge development is really screwing up North Indian but we have another type of run-off in the Big Indian area. It's from all the cattle country that Big Indian drains to the South in Arkansas. Between the Lake and the Boston Mountains to the South there is heavy use of the land for both cattle ranching and concentrated chicken production and much of that area drains into Big Indian.
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