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I found this hatch chart for Utah. Does anyone have one like this for the Ozarks?

Hatch Chart.pdf

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Here's one for Current R. at Montauk, not as detailed. It's not a bad guide.

http://www.missouris...hatchchart.html

Would you think that this chart would be accurate for Piney, Mill, and Blue Springs?

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Chuck Tryon has one in his book, starting on page 71, Fly Fishing For Trout in MO. Local shops around Bennett and Reed's Cabin at Montauk usually post what's hatching also.

The hatch charts are usually just a guide. Water temp, weather conditions, air temp., and water conditions all effect the daily hatch of streams. Pack flies matching what might be out at the specific time of year and read the water when you get there to choose what to fish is usually the best rule of thumb.

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http://family-outdoors.com/Ozark-Trout-Fishing.html

This one is fairly detailed, but not so much as the one you linked to for Utah. Of course its impossible for any hatch chart to be anywhere near exact for a region as large as the Ozarks and the wild variations in weather from year to year, but this should be helpful for you anyway.

But without consulting any hatch chart, I can tell you that on Little Piney or Mill you that you're likely to find caddis, blue-winged olives, midges, or any combination there-off mid-morning through late afternoon over the next couple weeks. More olives and midges on cloudy days and more caddis on nice sunny days.

I can also tell you with nearly absolute certainty that you will not need anything like an exact imitation of any of the insects I just mentioned. If they are not rising, use a #16 or 18 Hare's Ear or Pheasant Tail Nymph, and if they're rising use an Elk Hair Caddis or Adams in the appropriate size. If the conditions are okay, and you have half-way decent small stream fishing ability, as I believe you do based on your posts, then you will almost surely catch fish with those flies.

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http://family-outdoo...ut-Fishing.html

This one is fairly detailed, but not so much as the one you linked to for Utah. Of course its impossible for any hatch chart to be anywhere near exact for a region as large as the Ozarks and the wild variations in weather from year to year, but this should be helpful for you anyway.

But without consulting any hatch chart, I can tell you that on Little Piney or Mill you that you're likely to find caddis, blue-winged olives, midges, or any combination there-off mid-morning through late afternoon over the next couple weeks. More olives and midges on cloudy days and more caddis on nice sunny days.

I can also tell you with nearly absolute certainty that you will not need anything like an exact imitation of any of the insects I just mentioned. If they are not rising, use a #16 or 18 Hare's Ear or Pheasant Tail Nymph, and if they're rising use an Elk Hair Caddis or Adams in the appropriate size. If the conditions are okay, and you have half-way decent small stream fishing ability, as I believe you do based on your posts, then you will almost surely catch fish with those flies.

My main purpose for finding one is to help me figure out what to tie on the vise, and a little education for me. Actually, I all I fished with last year while I was learning was nymphs. So I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone with the drys.

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There was one in the Tryon book, but its not in every edition...and many of those listed arent significant. As for what to tie..Terrestrials (hopper, cricket, beetle, ant's, etc) are my most productive dry flies, bar none...after those Caddis Patterns, and some specific mayflies..have some Hendrickson & Lt. Cahill's in your box early in the season...have some Lt. Cahills & Sulphurs in you box in the May/June timeframe. Some White Flies if your fishing the Meramec in the late summer.....BWO's & Trico's & tiny whispy things in you box Fall & Winter. Stoneflies..used a big bushy hopper pattern for the big ones, or a caddis for the small ones..Cheers.

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There was one in the Tryon book, but its not in every edition...and many of those listed arent significant. As for what to tie..Terrestrials (hopper, cricket, beetle, ant's, etc) are my most productive dry flies, bar none...after those Caddis Patterns, and some specific mayflies..have some Hendrickson & Lt. Cahill's in your box early in the season...have some Lt. Cahills & Sulphurs in you box in the May/June timeframe. Some White Flies if your fishing the Meramec in the late summer.....BWO's & Trico's & tiny whispy things in you box Fall & Winter. Stoneflies..used a big bushy hopper pattern for the big ones, or a caddis for the small ones..Cheers.

Going off topic a little here, but what is your favorite terrestrial? What I'm reading for my "edu-me-cation" says to use ant's around trees and hopper's around grass.

Do I need to wait until late summer for the the hoppers?

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