Ozark Hatch Chart

[Gavin]

I have two favorites....One is a Madame X style fly, and the other is the Jarosik Beetle.

Norm's Madame X is good version...

http://www.streamsideadventures.com/tips-and-techniques/cast-to-ledges.html

Here's the Jarosik Beetle

http://www.ozarkflyfishers.org/fly/printfly/crowebeetle.pdf

[ozark trout fisher]

Going off topic a little here, but what is your favorite terrestrial? What I'm reading for my "edu-me-cation" says to use ant's around trees and hopper's around grass.

Do I need to wait until late summer for the the hoppers?

Yeah, you'll need to wait till late June-mid-July at least for the hoppers to really get going-although they should start taking ants sooner. One trick though-a small (say, about a #12) hopper will sometimes take wild trout at just about any time of the year. I don't know what they take it for during the seasons when there are no hoppers, I guess maybe a big caddis fly or something, but it can work.

Hopper fishing on the LP can be tricky business. It's got a lot of tall grass along it, so there are lots of hoppers, but the best hopper fishing happens on hot late summer afternoons. That is also when the water temperature gets a little high for the fishing to be all that good, unless you're pretty darn close to the springs. But then sometimes you can just knock them dead on hoppers if the conditions are right.

[troutfiend1985]

Going off topic a little here, but what is your favorite terrestrial? What I'm reading for my "edu-me-cation" says to use ant's around trees and hopper's around grass.

Do I need to wait until late summer for the the hoppers?

As far as hoppoer go, I think that small ones any time of the year on the sreams you fish would work. It could serve as that perfect indicator that you've been looking for(And BTW, I never did get a darn indicator fly to the specs you wanted even though I tried, I still think foam or spun deer hair could work but couldn't find the right type of foam, and deer hair ain't my thing).

As far as beetles, tim has an excellent video on youtube.

My favorite dry flies are in this order

Adams, preferably small 16-22

X Caddis(good fly that is underrated/posted on this forum).

Lt Cahill.

Good luck mic, fly tying is expensive, just ask my bank account

[mic]

As far as hoppoer go, I think that small ones any time of the year on the sreams you fish would work. It could serve as that perfect indicator that you've been looking for(And BTW, I never did get a darn indicator fly to the specs you wanted even though I tried, I still think foam or spun deer hair could work but couldn't find the right type of foam, and deer hair ain't my thing).

As far as beetles, tim has an excellent video on youtube.

My favorite dry flies are in this order

Adams, preferably small 16-22

X Caddis(good fly that is underrated/posted on this forum).

Lt Cahill.

Good luck mic, fly tying is expensive, just ask my bank account

I'm still trying to figure out my ideal setup. I have gone through quite a few scenarios. The indicator fly didn't work in some of my situations (turbulent water) because once it went under it wouldn't come back up. I'm going to try a new setup next trip out. I have a 7.5, 3x tapered leader. At the end of that, I will tie a small ring found on furled leaders (you can get them at Feather-Craft in St. Louis). I'm adding this because I change tippet a lot to change depths. The ring will keep me from burning through the leader and allow me to switch straight to 7x tippet when required. Just above the ring, I will put on half of a foam indicator. I've used the half indicators which is the perfect size for my rig, but something happens when you cut them in a half. They don't like to stay on the line. So, I'm taking a tube of superglue and will put some on the indicator. I always have an indicator on because I can't see dry flies half the time anyway. My only concern is if the superglue will make the end of the leader brittle and lower the line strength. I'll let you know how it works out.

[troutfiend1985]

I'm still trying to figure out my ideal setup. I have gone through quite a few scenarios. The indicator fly didn't work in some of my situations (turbulent water) because once it went under it wouldn't come back up. I'm going to try a new setup next trip out. I have a 7.5, 3x tapered leader. At the end of that, I will tie a small ring found on furled leaders (you can get them at Feather-Craft in St. Louis). I'm adding this because I change tippet a lot to change depths. The ring will keep me from burning through the leader and allow me to switch straight to 7x tippet when required. Just above the ring, I will put on half of a foam indicator. I've used the half indicators which is the perfect size for my rig, but something happens when you cut them in a half. They don't like to stay on the line. So, I'm taking a tube of superglue and will put some on the indicator. I always have an indicator on because I can't see dry flies half the time anyway. My only concern is if the superglue will make the end of the leader brittle and lower the line strength. I'll let you know how it works out.

Mic

I'm really leaning towards a hopper or PMX pattern as a good indicator fly. I think you'll like it. Also the caddis flies should be starting up here in a month or so, and that X Caddis will pay dividends.

Also, there are those exteremly small thingamabobbers that guys are using to tie flies with. This might be another route you could take, it would have a hook in it and it would be a fly. Most of the flies I see using this are quite beefy, with a parachute style hackle incorporated. Might want to check that out at feather craft.

[mic]

Mic

I'm really leaning towards a hopper or PMX pattern as a good indicator fly. I think you'll like it. Also the caddis flies should be starting up here in a month or so, and that X Caddis will pay dividends.

Also, there are those exteremly small thingamabobbers that guys are using to tie flies with. This might be another route you could take, it would have a hook in it and it would be a fly. Most of the flies I see using this are quite beefy, with a parachute style hackle incorporated. Might want to check that out at feather craft.

I will definently try out the indicators flys on my Bennett trip in May. I did try the thingamabobbers. For me (and maybe my inexperience) they didn't work well at Blue Creek because so many of the casts there are simple wrist flicks. I found them to be just a tad to heavy. On the bigger pools/runs, were I'm casting they worked fine. My guess is I will have a setup for Blue Springs and another for everyone else. That is just half the fun...figuring out things like that.