flytyer57 Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go..... Oh I could. But I won't. There's a fine line between fishing and sitting there looking stupid.
OzarksRiverman Posted May 3, 2011 Author Posted May 3, 2011 What a victory. This shouldn't be a time to celebrate politicos, the celebration should be for armed forces. I've heard a lot of criticism directed towards Barry Obama saying he's taking too much ownership of this operation. Oh well, In my opinion I'm glad it got done no matter who's President. Obama, Bush, that wacky chick from Alaska... It sends the message: You attack us, and take credit for it, you will die. The extremists have to know that nobody could hide better than "Osama Bin-Hidin'". So they know they know they have no chance of living after attacking the US. The two-bit suicide bombers might not care about this, but the 'bigwig' mastermind terrorists aren't the suicide type. I think finding and killing Bin Laden will go a long way in deterring future large-scale attacks. Congrats the guys and ladies that were involved in this operation, and a big thanks to the troops that have fought in Afghanistan/Pakistan over the last 9 or so years.
Stoneroller Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 don't over simplify islamic extremists by thinking that they have a 'command structure' or 'leaders'. these people have a belief system that does not include the indulgences and debauchery prevelant in western society. They see us as a fundamental stopping block to their happiness and will not rest until we are dead and they win. this has done as much to stop/curb terrorism as killing Pablo Escobar did to stop/curb the cocaine trafficking in the world. Fish On Kayak Adventures, LLC. Supreme Commander 'The Dude' of Kayak fishing www.fishonkayakadventures.com fishonkayakadventures@yahoo.com
Al Agnew Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 Agree that this shouldn't be made political. It is a victory for the Navy Seals and for the intelligence services that found him (apparently with no help from, or even in spite of, the Pakistanis). Obama can also take credit for some of it. Apparently he had the choice of just bombing the place, or sending in the Seals, and opted to send in the Seals to make sure, rather than assuming Bin Laden would be in the rubble. Why not look at it as a win for everybody involved, without the nitpicking. I have to say I wasn't all that thrilled with the news coverage of the raucous celebrations (which looked mostly like a bunch of high school and college age people). Looked a little too much like all the celebrations various Muslim populations have done whenever the terrorists score a victory. I'd like to think we're a LOT better than that. To use a sports analogy, I'd rather see the wide receiver just put the ball down and walk off the field with a slight smile after scoring the touchdown, rather than doing a big showboat celebration all over the end zone. Seems a lot classier somehow.
Tim Smith Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 What a victory. This shouldn't be a time to celebrate politicos, the celebration should be for armed forces. I've heard a lot of criticism directed towards Barry Obama saying he's taking too much ownership of this operation. Oh well, In my opinion I'm glad it got done no matter who's President. Obama, Bush, that wacky chick from Alaska... It sends the message: You attack us, and take credit for it, you will die. The extremists have to know that nobody could hide better than "Osama Bin-Hidin'". So they know they know they have no chance of living after attacking the US. The two-bit suicide bombers might not care about this, but the 'bigwig' mastermind terrorists aren't the suicide type. I think finding and killing Bin Laden will go a long way in deterring future large-scale attacks. Congrats the guys and ladies that were involved in this operation, and a big thanks to the troops that have fought in Afghanistan/Pakistan over the last 9 or so years. Well said!! We'll see how much deterence we get out of this. If they have their stuff together, they'll have a response planned. But they've been getting the stuffing knocked out of them for quite a few years now. This could be a turning point.
dennis boatman Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that" ~ Martin Luther King, Jr. A strike indicator is just a bobber...
Stoneroller Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of their women. -Conan the Barbarian on 'what is good in life' Fish On Kayak Adventures, LLC. Supreme Commander 'The Dude' of Kayak fishing www.fishonkayakadventures.com fishonkayakadventures@yahoo.com
troutfiend1985 Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 I never rejoice in a persons death, regardless of hatred towards another. Doing so shows a lack of class at the best. That MLK quote is a great one. “The greatest menace to freedom is an inert people” J. Brandeis
Mitch f Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 I think the biggest problem is our lack of good intelligence, which was proven by the fact that the compound OBL was found in had no phones, televisions, or any electronic devices. You would think the USA could have figured out the Paki's were deceiving us long before now and would have been able to do something long ago. The compound was 100 yards from a paki army depot. Pervez Musharraf's angry response to the operation was another reason that shows how out of touch we were with the situation. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
eric1978 Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 I think the biggest problem is our lack of good intelligence, which was proven by the fact that the compound OBL was found in had no phones, televisions, or any electronic devices. You would think the USA could have figured out the Paki's were deceiving us long before now and would have been able to do something long ago. The compound was 100 yards from a paki army depot. Pervez Musharraf's angry response to the operation was another reason that shows how out of touch we were with the situation. I agree. The fact that he was "hiding" so blatantly out in the open does not fare well for the Pakis (I think we pretty much knew their hearts weren't really in helping us find him). But that doesn't mean it's time to bomb them, too. I think this mission just proves that the "war" on terror should not be one fought on a large scale with hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground and trillions of dollars spent. It should be focused on intelligence and covert ops, just like this one. If they find a training camp, go ahead and bomb the darn thing, but this is not a traditional enemy, and it's not a traditional war, so it shouldn't be fought in a traditional way. We need to bring home about 90% of our troops from EVERY country in the world. You guys know how many troops we still have stationed in Germany and Japan? It's ridiculous. Talk about budget waste!
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