Jack Jones Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 Some weekends I would welcome a doped up girl to party with or a nice flash.....diverts the attention from the fact that the fish aren't biting. "Thanks to Mother Mercy, Thanks to Brother Wine, Another night is over and we're walking down the line" - David Mallett
FishinCricket Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 Some weekends I would welcome a doped up girl to party with or a nice flash.....diverts the attention from the fact that the fish aren't biting. lol, indeed... Some folks find fault as if it were treasure... cricket.c21.com
oneshot Posted July 17, 2011 Author Posted July 17, 2011 Well not sure how much truth to this but I heard today they are putting Camping in over there plus they bought Sand Springs going to be Bigger than NRO. oneshot
woodman Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 I was their at the Bennit state park las week Wed.-Fri. I took a friend of ours teen son who wanted to do some trout fishing, I didn't have waders and didn't last too long wading in that cold water. I hadn't been to park in some 20 yrs. I discovered they had a launch at the end of the park so I put in my kayak and paddled up stream. Well I noticed on the other side of the river the water was getting murky and I heard heavy equipment up ahead and along side another spring that feeds into the Niangua they were adding gravel to ,what seemed to be an eroding bank... Well I paddled up this section 3 different days and they added top soil to the top of the bank to finish it off...I don't know if this is the section you are talking about or not... http://s147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/scrawford_photos/
oneshot Posted July 18, 2011 Author Posted July 18, 2011 I was their at the Bennit state park las week Wed.-Fri. I took a friend of ours teen son who wanted to do some trout fishing, I didn't have waders and didn't last too long wading in that cold water. I hadn't been to park in some 20 yrs. I discovered they had a launch at the end of the park so I put in my kayak and paddled up stream. Well I noticed on the other side of the river the water was getting murky and I heard heavy equipment up ahead and along side another spring that feeds into the Niangua they were adding gravel to ,what seemed to be an eroding bank... Well I paddled up this section 3 different days and they added top soil to the top of the bank to finish it off...I don't know if this is the section you are talking about or not... Yea if you go just below 64 HWY Bridge there is a Small Island,just past the Island they have cut the bank down for a Put In,I would say this is where they are putting the Gravel.They have been hauling Dirt in for over a month I think they are leveling up with it. oneshot
FishinCricket Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Those are two different spots you two are describing, and (from what I understand) they are putting in more camping upstream from the bridge and a private access downstream from "MY Island"... Capitalism, gotta love it!! cricket.c21.com
ozark trout fisher Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 The party floaters can really get to me honestly. For me it's not so much that they are there in numbers and make solitude pretty much impossible ( I don't like that either, but everyone has the right to enjoy the river.) It's the complete and total disrespect for the river and other folks trying to enjoy the river that some show that gets under my skin. If you want to be drunk while you float down the river okay, just don't scream at the top of your lungs, or be profane just for the sake of being profane. And that is what some of these folks are doing. Canoe rentals often advertise float trips as something that's good for the whole family and such. But I'll tell you this much: if I had kids, there is absolutely no way in heck that I would be taking them down the Current, Niangua, Meramec, or even probably the Big Piney on a summer weekend. I simply wouldn't feel okay about doing it with some of the folks that frequent those rivers in the summer. It's really a sad thing that it has gone so far in that direction on so many beautiful Ozark streams. Also, with some of these folks, exactly none of their empty beer cans go off the river with them. They just become part of the river's scenery. I more and more try to float stretches of river that aren't serviced by a canoe rental, especially if I'm going on a weekend. It just makes the experience so much better. And rivers like that are out there, sometimes within just a few miles of streams that are pounded by the party crowds. You just have to look for either really remote or somewhat marginal rivers that just couldn't attract enough of a crowd to keep a canoe rental in business.
fishinwrench Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 OTF, They are the same people that package the food you eat, sell you insurance, teach your kids in classrooms, and help hold down the pews at your church most Sundays..... If you can't share a river with them, then who? LOL
ozark trout fisher Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 OTF, They are the same people that package the food you eat, sell you insurance, teach your kids in classrooms, and help hold down the pews at your church most Sundays..... If you can't share a river with them, then who? LOL I don't like to share the river with people who scream the f word at the top of their lungs, people who flash you as you paddle past them, etc. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think rivers should be a place that people of all ages should be able to enjoy, and things have gotten so bad on certain waterways that it isn't even really safe for families to float them on the weekends, and certainly not a good idea on multiple levels. Oneshot hit the nail on the head when he called it the Party Cove Mentality. I don't like that, and if any of the people that I'm envisioning teach kids in classrooms, well I just hope that isn't the case. I'm not talking about your average group of people enjoying a trip down the river, drinking a few beers and having a good time. I'm talking about the folks that gather in huge groups on a gravel bar, get so drunk they absolutely have no self control, and yell and scream every cuss word ever invented at the top of their lungs, and have a boom box with heavy metal turned up all the way. That's just obnoxious, and it gets worse than that too. When people are floating down the river, so drunk that they simply cannot control themselves, they become a danger to themselves and others. Too many people drown because of this every single summer. And that's the biggest problem.
FishinCricket Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 I don't like to share my world with people who scream the f word at the top of their lungs, people who flash you as you paddle past them, etc. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think this world should be a place that people of all ages should be able to enjoy, and things have gotten so bad in certain areas that it isn't even really safe for families to go there on the weekends, and certainly not a good idea on multiple levels. Oneshot hit the nail on the head when he called it the Party Cove Mentality. I don't like that, and if any of the people that I'm envisioning teach kids in classrooms, well I just hope that isn't the case. (shoves head farther in the sand) There, I fixed that for ya... Lol FWIW, I feel the same as you.. I just also expand that to the convenience store, grocery store, movie theater, etc... And it don't happen.. If you haven't watch "Idiocracy", do so immediately... The first 10 minutes says it all... cricket.c21.com
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