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8/14 Trip Report


Flatbottom Boy

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Got out early, 3am, sunday. Caught 10 keeper crappies under the light in the 12 FOW range. They hit small white grubs and red/whit tube jigs. As the sun started coming up I worked the coves with a buzz bait and spook. Managed 3 keepers right off the bat, the fishing slowed pretty quick as the sun got higher. Caught several shorts on the spook, but most wanted the buzz. Skiers and jet skis out by 8am? Thought that was a little early. Started getting stupid around 9am so I was off the water, my little boat gets swamped pretty fast by the bigger boats. Overall it was good enough for me, got me outa the house. Tight lines all...

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Guest Buck Creek Mike

Sounds like a nice productive outing. Where were you fishing (general area of the lake)? I'll be back down on the 26th and I'll prolly try some bassin with my dad. We are at the 7mm, and yes, 8:00 am is not too early for the jetskiers!

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Sounds like a nice productive outing. Where were you fishing (general area of the lake)? I'll be back down on the 26th and I'll prolly try some bassin with my dad. We are at the 7mm, and yes, 8:00 am is not too early for the jetskiers!

I thought that was crazy early for those guys, they must have been the family types...cause the party types were still up partying when I got there to fish. I was out on the Glaize, sorry I thought I had put that in my post. I have a small boat so I don't attempt the main lake part, I get swamped enough way back in the Glaize. I'm not a serious bass fisherman, I enjoy fishing too much to get mesmerized by just one fish but I give them a go from time to time. Early morning top water has to be my favorite way to target them though, love the explosion. I've been wanting to get my 7 wt flyrod out there and really play with them, been procrastinating on the flies though. Hope you do well with your dad...post some results, this forum is getting to be kinda slow since the spring. Take care.

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Guest Buck Creek Mike

Yeah, flatbottom, I usually find that the ones up at 8:00am are kids, not adults as much. Wrench, nice pics, and nice fish.

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Yeah Wrench sounds like a plan, I'm not good at tying flies just yet but I have the equipment and I'm sure I can youtube it. I move around so much it seems I can't find the time to even get the stuff set up let alone start tying. If a guy was wanting to purchase flies what would you recomend? I'm also in close proximity to the big piney, do you ever chase the smallies on the fly? I'm gonna give that a go too when I get the right flies to do so. I see some of the guys using weighted crawdad flies under indicators and such, but I know the top water bite can be good on the smallies at the right time too.

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Ok wrench, you got my attention for sure now. Pretty sure I've forgotten about the bucket mouths. I lived in TN a while back and we used to fish the big stripers and hybrids, I've never even tried to target those fish on a fly though. They gave me a run for my money on the heavy gear I was using. I've caught a few whites on accident trolling around on the Glaize but I havn't been able to locate any large numbers of them. Are you fishing a tailwater somewhere? What kind of presentation are you using? I'm not expecting you to share all your secrets, I expect to do some of the work...just never done this before.

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I've caught a few whites on accident trolling around on the Glaize but I havn't been able to locate any

large numbers of them.

When you catch ONE it's likely that you've located a whole school. If you do any research about them everything you will read about white bass leads you to think that they are perpetual wanderers...constantly following schools of baitfish, and I'm sure that's accurate unless you are on a body of water like this one where shad are so thick that they are everywhere. Our whites tend to haunt certain areas, taking on more of an ambush approach and hammering the random schools of shad as they pass through.

What I look for are areas where the whites can herd a school of bait into a corner, cuz that's where the real fast and furious action goes on. All they need is two "edges"... the surface of the water being one "edge". Anytime you can find whites using the surface as an edge to herd their food you are in business with a flyrod and a floating or intermediate line.

I'm not only referring to obvious surface busting type feeding, most of the time that this goes on you'll never see a fish actually break the surface. The way you locate them is by covering an area quickly stripping a subsurface fly a foot or two under the surface and watching behind the fly for flashes. Once you see a flash start experimenting with different retrieves and maybe different flys until you find what it takes to make them go ahead and eat it. They'll chase and flash at just about anything that gets their attention, but they'll only strike what they intend to eat.

Are you fishing a tailwater somewhere?

No I mostly fish the larger flats on the lake but the location pattern is basically the same as tailwater fishing....the only difference is that a dam is not acting as one of the "edges",

I have to loosely define the word EDGE, because I still haven't learned to recognize them all. Current seams are the obvious edge in a river, but lake edges can be kinda subtle ... and surprising. For example: Last Fall I located a spot on a large flat that consisted of nothing more than a shadow of a ridgeline and a big laydown tree, almost every day from 4:30 until dark the whites would gorge on every school of shad that passed between that shadow-line and the laydown, and that went on clear up until they dropped the lake to almost 657.0 and the water temp got down into the low 50's

Don't give up on the bucketmouths though....they help fill the gaps when the whites/hybrids can't be figured out :)

If you really want to get an education on flyfishing for temperate bass google up the articles and podcasts featuring Bill Butts, he is on top of it like nobody else I know.

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Well thank you for all the info I will try to look for the "signs" a little closer next time I get out on the water. I'll hit you up next time I plan on getting up to the glaize and maybe we can link up for an evening..(I'll bring a notebook) It's getting harder to concentrate on the fishing the closer archery season gets but I'm sure I'll get out a couple more times and I really want to get out in between hunts. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.

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