Nice Trout On The Spring River

[Brian Wise]

That's obvious if you've ever seen one of his fly-tying videos.

:D :D

Well played gentleman....well played

[KATroutman13]

Brian,

We've met on the river a few times. I doubt you are a meth head, you have too many teeth in your smile on camera. But, your straw man type arguments will not get you out of this argument. Based on the photos and videos, I don't buy that you've NEVER fished a redd or ALWAYS instruct your clients to not fish redds. You catch fish in spawning colors and have video of a dude eating brown trout roe at a pull-out and assert that any fish spewing roe had to be pulled off a redd. It does not jive. Am I criticizing you, if you've ever fished redds? No.

Ness,

Brian does the same, do you have an equal criticism? He clearly admits that a brown was caught that sprayed eggs in a boat, thus, it was "obviously pulled off of a redd." According to him, if you didn't see a redd in the video it wasn't there, so these kids couldn't have been doing what he alleges them to have been doing, because that would be nothing more than an assumption.

No, no...not the point I was trying to make. A rainbow spraying eggs all over the place, obviously pulled off of a redd and one guys walking through redds while he is landing a fish.......It's pretty obvious those guys just need to be informed or "edu-ma-cated" you might say. Is one of them a guide? I would personally hope a fly fishing guide would inform those guys to keep "his" river as awesome as it can be -- as guides are just as big of a resource for conservation as AGFC or MDC.

I understand that it is seriously cool to catch a 22" rainbow, and that is one really nice fish (although I would bet my life and well being that it isn't over 5 pounds, much less anywhere near 10) but smashing through redds and spraying eggs all over the place like it was a Super Soaker isn't cool, especially since there is probably more rainbow trout spawn success in the Spring River than anywhere else in Arkansas.

[ness]

Ness,

Brian does the same, do you have an equal criticism? He clearly admits that a brown was caught that sprayed eggs in a boat, thus, it was "obviously pulled off of a redd." According to him, if you didn't see a redd in the video it wasn't there, so these kids couldn't have been doing what he alleges them to have been doing, because that would be nothing more than an assumption.

Look -- Brian's a good guy that I've known casually for several years. You've made assertions that he's done some stuff, claim it's all over his blog and Youtube, but you can't show anything but some knucklehead eating roe to support your accusation. That's lame at best, but it's far superior to your argument that he's fishing in spots, at a time of the year, and catching fish with colors that all prove he's fishing redds. C'mon, man!

[Justin Spencer]

KA

I agree with Ness and although I enjoy a good arguement on here from time to time I am respectful enough to take a man at his word, especially if I don't really know him. If someone says they aren't doing something and you can't prove they are then accept it. We don't really care if you believe it. If you knew Brian you would realize that you are throwing accusations in the complete wrong direction and making a fool of yourself in the process. If you ever really got to know Brian you would see he is extremely passionate about fly fishing and has a true love for his home river. Those of us who make or supplement our living from a particular resource do the most to protect it. If you ever have fished in the winter you would realize you catch a lot of colored up fish that don't come off redds. They are either staging or spawned out, or colored up from peer pressure. Brian doesn't need others defending him, but I just thought you might want to know that you are losing respect with many of the people on the forum who know Brian and what he is about.

[Gavin]

This guys arguments are lame...We've all probably caught a fish off unseen redds without realizing it. That happens, and that is OK with me....its a BIG stretch to say that Brian is actively targeting fish on redds because he caught a colored up fish, and one spewed eggs. Big Deal.

I'd fall out of my chair dumbfounded if Brian was actively targeting fish on redds. If he says he's not, I'm sure that he is not. The word would get out about behaviour like that on the NFoW, and some of fly fisher's who frequent that river would probably string him up by his heals from the nearest sycamore tree for doing so. It just doesnt add up.

[Matt Tucker]

Brian can't fish to redds.....because he is always behind the lens when I am fishing them..... the videos have to be edited to music though because the entire time he is nagging me to stop fishing the redds.

Using your logic about a fish being caught that is "colored up" must be on a redd (not post spawn or pre-spawn but specifically caught on a redd); we can assert that the President must be a slave because he is black.....how ridiculous does that sound?

[KATroutman13]

Okay, okay. I give. I apologize for calling you out Brian.

[Brian Sloss]

I have fished with Brian and consider him a friend and someone I respect...you are barking up the wrong tree.

[ness]

Oh chit -- Tucker's here. Now there's a redd-plundering, Taney-shuffling, roe-eating, milt-drinking, carbon-emitting, kitten-killing, biscuit-and-gravy-eating, Cheney-loving, SOB you if I ever saw one.

[BackCastingGolfer]

Rainbows to not reproduce in the Spring River, the browns do some, but not the rainbows. The river bottom doesn't have the right structure, and the fish's reproductive systems are all jacked from the hatchery. I have caught big females with eggs year round in the spring river.