Feathers and Fins Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Honestly I bet the guys in Cali are hoping there is something to harm seals and sea lions. Those dam things are a nuisance to fishermen, I have lost more than my fair share of good quality fish to them. Im betting the answer is NO though as it has had so much time in the ocean already to disburse most of the harmfull chemicals and what might still be present is probably in very small amounts. I talked to some of my family who are already finding some debris and cant wait for this summer, They said if we can get the La Nina to change to El Nino then it will be the best offshore season ever because of the trash. Then again my cousin I still think is insane as he goes after thresher sharks in a Kayak. Boy done lost his marbles but does catch some monsters. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
Justin Spencer Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Broke my heart the day they closed Big Mud Creek because of 911... Hell we were practically neighbors. That did suck when they closed Big Mud Creek, you could always count on catching any number of species in that area. Caught a 29" sea trout on some grass flats not too far from the power plant one winter. Night fishing for snook off those bridges was also a lot of fun! I worked at Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute and we would cast net mullet at lunch time and catch tarpon in some of the retention ponds around the property. And the grass flats out in front of Harbor Branch were full of big snook when the mullet were running. That triple tail I had last week at the Tiki Bar at Fort Pierce's city marina was sure good last week, some things you just can't get here. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
Feathers and Fins Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Man I know the flats your talking about off Oslo Road, I loved wading them ( with a long leash for my catch stupid baby blacktips and bulls ) My favorite flat was Bear Point, Caught several Tagged reds in there and a 12lbs gator trout, I had a key to the impoundment roads for Indian and St Lucie Counties, Me and my White Explorer would hit all the impountment culverts on outgoing tides and rack up the snook, reds and giant gator trout sitting at the mouths of them slurping mullet and mud minnows. That place was a fishermens dream, I think to many people look to the Back Country and Boca Grande and miss-out on the Indian and Bananna rivers insane fishing, The Treasure Cost is truly a Treasure... Did you ever get to fish the Giant Permit at the Reactor's outflow and if so how many blue runners and permit did you loose to Mr Jew? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
KCRIVERRAT Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Honestly I bet the guys in Cali are hoping there is something to harm seals and sea lions. Those dam things are a nuisance to fishermen, I have lost more than my fair share of good quality fish to them. Im betting the answer is NO though as it has had so much time in the ocean already to disburse most of the harmfull chemicals and what might still be present is probably in very small amounts. I talked to some of my family who are already finding some debris and cant wait for this summer, They said if we can get the La Nina to change to El Nino then it will be the best offshore season ever because of the trash. Then again my cousin I still think is insane as he goes after thresher sharks in a Kayak. Boy done lost his marbles but does catch some monsters. Well... I guess I'm glad YOUR family is excited to reap the rewards. To each his own. Pretty sad in my mind to take advantage of a disaster. Did my part to help Japan. And a Cali should help clean up that dung. Not think about fishing it. To each his own brother... HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
Feathers and Fins Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 KC you need to understand the benifits as well as the negatives of it. I have a cousin living in Japan want to guess where??? He and his wife lost everything from the disaster but has moved on with his life they survived. I have survived through many disasters thankfully, and I have for most my adult life dealt with disaster clean-up and reconstruction. I learned everything but life can be replaced! and everything that is destroyed can be cleaned up. Cali is going to clean it up as are alot of other countries but you cannot expect every fisherman to go out everyday to just pick up debris. They will fish it many of them and thats ok too as there at least was some benifit to a horrible event. Maybe its seeing so much disaster in my life but i tend to now look for the possitives in every bad situation. Look at Joplin its near to all of us, Im up there often for work and seeing the good thats come out of the bad is inspiring to say the least. You wont hear about it on CNN or Fox or any of the news networks because reporting on possitives isnt rating worthy. I wish they would so people can see that unlike in other disaters where you get people crying about this or that or the gubberment not doing anything, they can see what happens when good hard working people put their boots on role up their sleeves and help their community and neighbors. It broke my heart when the storm hit the town i have many friends there and I was depressed for weeks having to be there everyday seeing it. But its also been one of the most heart lifting places to be since then seeing what people can do when they work togeather. So i look for the good in all bad. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
rainbow Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Best fishing in the ocean I ever had was off the Kona Coast. We found a Japanese fishing net floating in the water and began to circle it. For four hours it was non stop mahi mahi, ono and tuna. All after the bait fish attracted to the net. The marlin were circling the outside of the net area picking off the mahi and tuna. we caught about 1000 pounds of fish which included a 400 lb marlin and a bunch of 40-50 lb mahi and ono with some great ahi tuna. So debris in the ocean is a fisherman's dream. We had the place to ourselves for a couple of hours and then the crowds showed up.
Justin Spencer Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Did you ever get to fish the Giant Permit at the Reactor's outflow and if so how many blue runners and permit did you loose to Mr Jew? I never caught any permit there, but plenty of big jacks. Lost about a 2 pound snook to what I think was big black grouper that lived in a culvert at Harbor Branch, he came out and grabbed my snook and went back in. I pulled and pulled and he finally spit out the dead de-scaled remains. Bear Point was a great one and Nettles Island was a great place and one of the few where I could consistently catch nice flounder. The Indian river is a great area that often gets overlooked for it's outstanding fishing. Hope to get back to the area (at least for some of the year) in my old age. Calm winter days just south of the inlet was absolutely nuts if you enjoyed catching Spanish Mackerel. When I worked for FWC we would take those afternoons off, grab the fly rods and catch as many fish as we cared to, then to the smoker with the ones that we kept. Always had a few blue fish, and blue runners mixed in. Only downfall was trying to get away from all the boats. It was easy to find our own school of fish, but as soon as you caught a few fish the boats would swarm around us, and we would move on to find some more. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
KCRIVERRAT Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 KC you need to understand the benifits as well as the negatives of it. I have a cousin living in Japan want to guess where??? He and his wife lost everything from the disaster but has moved on with his life they survived. I have survived through many disasters thankfully, and I have for most my adult life dealt with disaster clean-up and reconstruction. I learned everything but life can be replaced! and everything that is destroyed can be cleaned up. Cali is going to clean it up as are alot of other countries but you cannot expect every fisherman to go out everyday to just pick up debris. They will fish it many of them and thats ok too as there at least was some benifit to a horrible event. Maybe its seeing so much disaster in my life but i tend to now look for the possitives in every bad situation. Look at Joplin its near to all of us, Im up there often for work and seeing the good thats come out of the bad is inspiring to say the least. You wont hear about it on CNN or Fox or any of the news networks because reporting on possitives isnt rating worthy. I wish they would so people can see that unlike in other disaters where you get people crying about this or that or the gubberment not doing anything, they can see what happens when good hard working people put their boots on role up their sleeves and help their community and neighbors. It broke my heart when the storm hit the town i have many friends there and I was depressed for weeks having to be there everyday seeing it. But its also been one of the most heart lifting places to be since then seeing what people can do when they work togeather. So i look for the good in all bad. I get ya F&F. In life there are givers, takers, and givers and takers. The majority are givers and takers in my mind. That's where I would honestly place myself. Maybe the givers and possibly some of the giver and takers can donate their catch to the tsunami survivors? Sea life being replaced from being killed in this mess won't be replaced. We are the best at replacing our species until we doom ourselves. I'm about to respond to Rainbow's post. Seen that? HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
KCRIVERRAT Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Best fishing in the ocean I ever had was off the Kona Coast. We found a Japanese fishing net floating in the water and began to circle it. For four hours it was non stop mahi mahi, ono and tuna. All after the bait fish attracted to the net. The marlin were circling the outside of the net area picking off the mahi and tuna. we caught about 1000 pounds of fish which included a 400 lb marlin and a bunch of 40-50 lb mahi and ono with some great ahi tuna. So debris in the ocean is a fisherman's dream. We had the place to ourselves for a couple of hours and then the crowds showed up. Key words... "Debris is a fisherman's dream" Did your captain or any other boat report the net? Or did the spinner dolphins have to prove the point? Glad you fished the trash and had luck. I too have fished the Kona coast. All I caught was a 50# Short-nosed spearfish. No debris involved, except the cigarette butts the Captain had to empty from the ash trays. Made me very happy. HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
Feathers and Fins Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I get ya F&F. In life there are givers, takers, and givers and takers. The majority are givers and takers in my mind. That's where I would honestly place myself. Maybe the givers and possibly some of the giver and takers can donate their catch to the tsunami survivors? Sea life being replaced from being killed in this mess won't be replaced. We are the best at replacing our species until we doom ourselves. I'm about to respond to Rainbow's post. Seen that? Do you understand what the logistics that would be involved to Donate the meat from California Sport Fishermen to Japan? Not to mention you are talking about Japan not some third world country and they have plenty for those who were devestated. The Japanese Culture dictates they take care of their own it would be shame not to. Recovery is slow but steady and ongoing. Yes I have seen Rainbows Post and not certain why your bring it up. Looks to me like another angler who had a good day on the water. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
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