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I'm sorry tc and wf, but some of you guys are way to hung up on what to do, or not to do after a fish is caught.

Why risk killing a fish if you are not going to keep it? If people showed more respect to our natural resources as a whole, the world would be a much more pleasant place to live.

I have spent most of my money on fly fishing and beer. The rest I just wasted.

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Why risk killing a fish if you are not going to keep it? If people showed more respect to our natural resources as a whole, the world would be a much more pleasant place to live.

I respect his decision to do what he did. For all we know, he may have included those fish in his daily limit.

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Ok, made it to work today through this storm and am feeling less angry. I'm sorry for "stirring the pot," Buzz. Part of the problem might be that I stirred instead of smoked, but I will try not to post in that frame of mind any more. I thought the "forum stew" so to speak could use a stirring anyway, kinda crusty around the edges lately. Note to self, don't make negative comments on the forum about people doing ignorant stuff, someone's feelings may get hurt. Yo TC, respect!

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Note to self, don't make negative comments on the forum about people doing ignorant stuff, someone's feelings may get hurt. Yo TC, respect!

No. No. That horse isn't to dead to beat. :teeth-brushing-:

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Maybe its my turn to step up to the soapbox and repeat this speech, sans popcorn at hand.

Probably the best conservation practice (from each individual trout's perspective) would be for us to take our photos from a distance of 20 feet with them lounging in the brook, rather than throwing sharp pointy things, or tramping their stream beds and eroding their river banks. But once we decide to become anglers, mortality rate > 0% becomes a fact. Newbees are best advised to hone their skills and learn the craft in trout parks and other put-and-take fisheries. Those of us who are tactful enough to teach will be gratefully appreciated by the few who will eventually find their way further into the wild. And those of us who find our way to these wild trout forums rightly expect to encounter a higher level of experience and a respectfullness to help sustain our insanely beautiful and treasured fishing spots. That being said, this is an information sharing forum and every one of us can learn more about how to improve out catch & release skills. I see this as a journey, not a destination. So everyone, continue to challenge yourself to step up your game - lead by example, minimize our impact, and help support these great Ozark resources.

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Maybe its my turn to step up to the soapbox and repeat this speech, sans popcorn at hand.

Probably the best conservation practice (from each individual trout's perspective) would be for us to take our photos from a distance of 20 feet with them lounging in the brook, rather than throwing sharp pointy things, or tramping their stream beds and eroding their river banks. But once we decide to become anglers, mortality rate > 0% becomes a fact. Newbees are best advised to hone their skills and learn the craft in trout parks and other put-and-take fisheries. Those of us who are tactful enough to teach will be gratefully appreciated by the few who will eventually find their way further into the wild. And those of us who find our way to these wild trout forums rightly expect to encounter a higher level of experience and a respectfullness to help sustain our insanely beautiful and treasured fishing spots. That being said, this is an information sharing forum and every one of us can learn more about how to improve out catch & release skills. I see this as a journey, not a destination. So everyone, continue to challenge yourself to step up your game - lead by example, minimize our impact, and help support these great Ozark resources.

That's deep...but spot on advice.

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Maybe its my turn to step up to the soapbox and repeat this speech, sans popcorn at hand.

Probably the best conservation practice (from each individual trout's perspective) would be for us to take our photos from a distance of 20 feet with them lounging in the brook, rather than throwing sharp pointy things, or tramping their stream beds and eroding their river banks. But once we decide to become anglers, mortality rate > 0% becomes a fact. Newbees are best advised to hone their skills and learn the craft in trout parks and other put-and-take fisheries. Those of us who are tactful enough to teach will be gratefully appreciated by the few who will eventually find their way further into the wild. And those of us who find our way to these wild trout forums rightly expect to encounter a higher level of experience and a respectfulness to help sustain our insanely beautiful and treasured fishing spots. That being said, this is an information sharing forum and every one of us can learn more about how to improve out catch & release skills. I see this as a journey, not a destination. So everyone, continue to challenge yourself to step up your game - lead by example, minimize our impact, and help support these great Ozark resources.

Well said. I've thought many times about mentioning something about the care of released fish but it's hard to do so tactfully (as has been displayed already).

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Note to self, don't make negative comments on the forum about people doing ignorant stuff, someone's feelings may get hurt. Yo TC, respect!

If you are that concerned about the fishes feelings maybe you fish hookless? Yo Laker, respect!

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Maybe its my turn to step up to the soapbox and repeat this speech, sans popcorn at hand.

Probably the best conservation practice (from each individual trout's perspective) would be for us to take our photos from a distance of 20 feet with them lounging in the brook, rather than throwing sharp pointy things, or tramping their stream beds and eroding their river banks. But once we decide to become anglers, mortality rate > 0% becomes a fact. Newbees are best advised to hone their skills and learn the craft in trout parks and other put-and-take fisheries. Those of us who are tactful enough to teach will be gratefully appreciated by the few who will eventually find their way further into the wild. And those of us who find our way to these wild trout forums rightly expect to encounter a higher level of experience and a respectfullness to help sustain our insanely beautiful and treasured fishing spots. That being said, this is an information sharing forum and every one of us can learn more about how to improve out catch & release skills. I see this as a journey, not a destination. So everyone, continue to challenge yourself to step up your game - lead by example, minimize our impact, and help support these great Ozark resources.

Nicely said.

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If you are that concerned about the fishes feelings maybe you fish hookless?

... And with at least 10# leaders.

Since we are on the subject of care and handling of fish how about the poor treatment of handling and feeding the trout in such crowded conditions in the hatchery not to mention releasing them at the very place where so called sportsmen line up by shore of the outlets and let their sharp vicious hooks be jerked methodicly over and over in their only hope of escape. It seems to me that the first mile of the stream should be off limits to fishing to precent accidntal snagging of the fish in the tail and playing them until they float off near death off into the swift current. All fishing landing and fishing sites could be lined with soft fabric to cover the banks so pictures could be taken without harming the fish.

Perhaps several hatcheries could be established along the banks on only one side and the fish fed real food etc minnows, worms insects instead the boring pellets. Then only one side of the stream be open to fishing. Also only a population of one fish per every 10 foot of the rearing pools so the fish do not become stressed and depressed before being released into the waters.

We need to make the streams a safe place for the fish to live out their lives and provide great sport for the fishermen who hook the vicious barbed hooks into their mouths and drag them violently to the edge of the stream in ordeer to take trophy pictures to impress their freinds.

Just a few thughts to go along with the other great ideas in this thread.

Thom Harvengt

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