dtrs5kprs Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Borrowing info from various places, including roy_eros on here, this is what I have dialed in on for a no frills umbrella set-up. Easiest way to build is with 4 wires, but you can add the fifth by wrapping it around the swivel eye up front, and running it through the hole along with the 4 wires. Size 7 single leader sleeve (ID at least 0.130) snuggd up and crimped against the base of the weight, size 3-6 snap swivel on the back ends. Simple enough you could even carry a few parts in the boat and build them at need. Wire is 195# stainless coiled (about 0.031, like light spinnerbait wire, but you can easily go up or down a size and make it work). As roy_eros described, the 4 wires are formed by cutting lengths appx 20"-24" and bending them in half using a round bend pliers. Cheapest weights I have found are the Ultra Steel bullets. Also the hole is big enough to use straight from the pack without drilling it out, price was $5 or so for 50 at Cabela's, have seen smaller packs at Wal-Mart. Weight in the pic is 1/4oz, but the holes look to be the same size all the way down to 1/16oz, so building a smaller rig for kids or crappie use is completely possible. Brass carolina weights also work, but bumps the price way up. Figure: Weight= $0.10 Wire= $1.00 (high estimate) Swivels= $0.15 appx Snaps= $0.20 x 4, appx Sleeve= $0.10 appx Total for frame without baits= $2.15 appx/ per each. Not paying $25...well, you know what the commercial says. You can still afford to buy a pack of swimbaits to fish on it when you are done. Makes it cheap enough that everyone who wants to should be able to experiment with it this year. as for the weights, I am hearing the less you add to detract from the rigged baits (as in no painted heads) the better. Lots of the saltwater rigs are running plain lead up front.
Fishslayer88 Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 very nice i think i will make some up and try them on the whites. thank you for posting
dtrs5kprs Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 I looked at my receipt, weights were $6 per 50. Not much of a change.
Members Ryan Thomas Posted February 9, 2012 Members Posted February 9, 2012 Where did you buy the stainless wire? And how easy is it to straighten out? Also, has anyone found any certain rig weight to work better than others, as far as keeping the rig balanced?
roy_eros Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Very nice! Love the name, I'm going to start using that! I don't see how bait companies are going to even sell these things for $10 much longer.. These really are easy to make guys, and just as effective and durable in my experience
roy_eros Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Another idea for you Missouri guys, I thought of this idea but haven't tried it out yet, I was thinking of using one 18-24 inch wire just as dtrs5kprs used above, and another that had one regular arm, and one just about 3'' long. I would fold the three long wires into a pyramid or triangle, and use the short one in the middle with a blade..just a random thought I had that might work..
dtrs5kprs Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 Where did you buy the stainless wire? And how easy is it to straighten out? Also, has anyone found any certain rig weight to work better than others, as far as keeping the rig balanced? Barlows, Janns, Lure Parts Online (formerly Stamina), Cabelas. Comes in big coils, straightens with some effort, but not too bad. Gloves help. Parts are sporadic right now. Five wires will not fit the hole without dropping below the 195# wire. Five, and more, fit just fine through a brass carolina weight. The pics from our Mr. Babler would seem to indicate a nice plain head works just fine. Some of mine will get thrown at TR this weekend, but sadly not by me. I'm out on the balance issue. Common sense tells me simliar sized or weighted baits are a good idea. Maybe not a good idea to run paddle tails and curls. Mine have lots of swivels because I expect them to spin like trolling motor props. Was interesting to see the scroungers on Bill's rigs.
dtrs5kprs Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 Very nice! Love the name, I'm going to start using that! I don't see how bait companies are going to even sell these things for $10 much longer.. These really are easy to make guys, and just as effective and durable in my experience Thanks. I really appreciated your info as I moved beyond pouring wires into spinnerbait molds. Hated drilling out the lead weights though. Drilled out and built a handful on lead bullet weights and then went looking for something else.
Sore Thumbs Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 What is your time worth if you are making those? I would rather just go buy one and get it over with. Unless it is something you enjoy doing which in that case I coul see the attraction. Nice looking rig by the way.
balsabee Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I'm not really understanding why you need the heavy weight up on the nose of the A-Rig. Most of the ones being sold are made out of a polyester resin and have very little weight on the nose at all. I'm going to make a harness like you see in the link below and then take and cut the head off of a swim bait and push it through the harness. I also thought about pushing it up through a white gitzit or tube type bait. http://fishingskirts.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=1127 http://fishingskirts..._image&pID=1125 I also really like the look of these swimbaits. Great colors! http://www.density-tackle.com/Panic_minnow_swim.html
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