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I would have to say yes on the O2 as the stripers who need similar O2 were present as well. I know CalDFG did some O2 samplings in September at 40 ft that showed a DO of 8.5 to 9.7ppm anf those lakes have far less creeks and streams and wind chop to stir it. So I beleive these lakes would better suit them. Finacial gain I think would be high to the state and local economy. Think of all the revenu possiblilities of a chance to catch Browns and Bows upward of 15 to 20 pounds and stipers over 40 with 20+ being very common.

Fishermen gravitate to possible trophy lakes. When the Socal lakes started pumping out double digits frequnetly they became a zoo, My estimate would be 200% or more increase in anglers and not just instate but OOS. It would be a very interesting experimental project and the least.

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i personally would like to catch a brook trout in Missouri, i don't even know if they could survive here but selfishly i want them.

and in the absurd category how would you like to see one of these swim by in the fish less section on the Current? http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/11/071114-taimen-mongolia.html

Fish always lose by being "got in and dressed." It is best to weigh them while they are in the water. The only really large one I ever caught got away with my leader when I first struck him. He weighed ten pounds.

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When the Socal lakes started pumping out double digits frequnetly they became a zoo, My estimate would be 200% or more increase in anglers and not just instate but OOS.

And you want that? I'm just one fisherman, but I'd rather have unexciting fisheries where the chances of catching trophy fish are smaller than a 200% increase in anglers...

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ya, get em all on the lakes...i dont go there anyway

Fish always lose by being "got in and dressed." It is best to weigh them while they are in the water. The only really large one I ever caught got away with my leader when I first struck him. He weighed ten pounds.

—Charles Dudley Warner

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ya, get em all on the lakes...i dont go there anyway

Well I can agree with that. Maybe if that supposed 200% increase in those who fish the big lakes results in a similar decrease in those who fish streams, well then I could see some potential in this. Unfortunately I'm not sure it works that way:)

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OTF, I think our lakes could handle it. Like i said earlier socals are much smaller only a couple thousand surface acres and Socal's population alone was like 18million. I dont think AR and MO as states have half that kind of populations. I think last i looked combined they only has about 9million people.

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I would have to say yes on the O2 as the stripers who need similar O2 were present as well.

But stripers don't need the lower temps that salmonoids would need. BS is stocked with bows on a regular basis, yet they don't wander. TR also get a few, but they only show up around Roaring River in the cold months.

Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.

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We've had rainbows stocked in lake Brittany here in Bella Vista for the last 4 years. First 2 years some of the bows did survive the summer as the summers were relatively mild, but the last 2 years they have not survived the summer. Brittany is 65 feet deep in places and the water below the thermocline stays cold enough to support trout through the summer, but the DO level is not high enough for them so they die out in a hot summer. I think you'd see the same in Beaver with trout. A few might survive the summer by congregating near springs or other cool oxygenated spots, but the survival rate would be so low as to not make stocking them worth the effort.

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I think a few great white sharks in Bennett Springs would be very interesting.

im going to need a bigger leader

Fish always lose by being "got in and dressed." It is best to weigh them while they are in the water. The only really large one I ever caught got away with my leader when I first struck him. He weighed ten pounds.

—Charles Dudley Warner

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You seem to be dead on with your conservation positions, all, but that peacock bass comment is pretty disappointing, Al. Large engulfing predators tend to have big impacts on native fauna.

It's bad enough Peakcock bass are in Florida and people trying to stuff them into Belize...where hopefully the groundwater-fed rivers will make it too cold for them to do well.

What fish would I like to see stocked? Ideally, none. The best fisheries run without stocking, although I realize it's probably not possible to do this in most cases that is the best economic and ecological ideal. If you want to catch lake trout, go north where they're native.

You're right, of course, Tim. I was joking about the peacock bass, since I know they won't survive in our winters. And from what I understand, they go dormant when the water temps get down to our spring and autumn levels, even.

Cutthroat trout? To me, the real beauty of cutthroats is that they are the native trout in most of the streams they live in out West. As gamefish, I think they are inferior to rainbows and browns, being easier to catch most of the time and not as hard fighting. I love catching cuts in the Yellowstone River because I know these are the remnants of the native populations, and they are beautiful fish. I'd have no interest at all in catching a Yellowstone cutthroat in Current River.

Brook trout? Another fish that is wonderful in its native streams, but isn't anything special in places where it has been introduced.

Northern pike? I don't enjoy catching them all that much where they live, because I don't target them and they often attack the bass lures I'm using, usually biting the line and swimming off with the lure, and if you do boat them, they are hard to handle. In other words, if you're a bass fisherman, pike are simply a pain to contend with. Heck, most of the bass anglers in Pomme de Terre hate muskies for the same reasons.

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