Wayne SW/MO Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 Great news!! I saw two in the 70's and 80's in the Niangua, but I've fished it off and on for almost 60 years. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Greasy B Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 I have never caught one yet while fishing and am waiting for the day. I don't think catching one is the idea. They are not game or a non game animal to be used for sport or food. Simple observation would be a worthy goal. His father touches the Claw in spite of Kevin's warnings and breaks two legs just as a thunderstorm tears the house apart. Kevin runs away with the Claw. He becomes captain of the Greasy Bastard, a small ship carrying rubber goods between England and Burma. Michael Palin, Terry Jones, 1974
Mitch f Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 I was fishing a crawfish crankbait 1/2 below Boiling Springs on the Gascy and caught one that size about 10 years ago. I hooked it on the side of the head, but I kind of doubt it was going after the lure, think I just accidentally snagged it "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Outside Bend Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 It's pretty neat to think that a decade ago we had no idea how to breed these guys in captivity, and now we're starting to see some pretty consistent results- kudos to the folks with the patience and the resolve to figure it out. I know many of the folks working with hellbenders have been worried about illegal harvest for the pet trade. I wonder if captive breeding will someday be able to alleviate that stress on the wild populations. <{{{><
junkman Posted November 4, 2012 Posted November 4, 2012 I don't know if they were hellbender's or not, but my cousins and I used to catch what we called mud puppies out of the local muddy creaks around here. What was intimidating was trying to get the hook out of there mouth, for it doesn't look like a cat fish mouth in there.
Tim Smith Posted November 4, 2012 Posted November 4, 2012 I don't know if they were hellbender's or not, but my cousins and I used to catch what we called mud puppies out of the local muddy creaks around here. What was intimidating was trying to get the hook out of there mouth, for it doesn't look like a cat fish mouth in there. Mud puppies are pretty awesome too, but they're a different, smaller species. I've seen a few of those, but not recently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necturus
Wayne SW/MO Posted November 4, 2012 Posted November 4, 2012 It's pretty neat to think that a decade ago we had no idea how to breed these guys in captivity, and now we're starting to see some pretty consistent results- kudos to the folks with the patience and the resolve to figure it out. I know many of the folks working with hellbenders have been worried about illegal harvest for the pet trade. I wonder if captive breeding will someday be able to alleviate that stress on the wild populations. Aren't there a lot of environmental stresses on them? Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Outside Bend Posted November 4, 2012 Posted November 4, 2012 Aren't there a lot of environmental stresses on them? Yep- there's a fungus that some think may be contributing to the decline, and lots of folks are worried about sewage/livestock effluent, hormones, antiobiotics, etc. But apparently many hellbenders are being collected from the wild and sold as pets here in the states as well as abroad. You can read a little about it here: http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/brill/ah/2007/00000004/00000003/art00002 <{{{><
Wayne SW/MO Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Taking anytthing from the wild for a pet should have a penalty to be serious enough to really deter it. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Justin Spencer Posted November 5, 2012 Author Posted November 5, 2012 Yep- there's a fungus that some think may be contributing to the decline, and lots of folks are worried about sewage/livestock effluent, hormones, antiobiotics, etc. But apparently many hellbenders are being collected from the wild and sold as pets here in the states as well as abroad. You can read a little about it here: http://www.ingentaco...000003/art00002 I doubt there are enough to make it worth anyone's effort now to collect them, but because it takes them a while to mature, I'm sure this jump started the decline. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
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