Wild Boar, Come And Kill It For Me.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Shooting an animal that is damaging your personal property is legal in the state of MO. That was confirmed today when I filed the complaint against the owners of the feral livestock with the local sheriff deputy. In the state of MO, if you fail to control your pets or livestock, ie. keep them contained on your own property, you the owner are in violation of a law called animal neglect/abuse.

If the pig gets into my hive of bees, it will be threatening my livestock. If it does, I have the legal right to shoot to kill the animal. The mule was damaging my personal property and I spared its life. I used a less than lethal load developed by Fiocchi for use on people in riot control. The load loses velocity and the pellets don't penetrate. But the flash and bang is like a full power load.

So when one of your bees stings someone and they have an allergic reaction, since it is your livestock, you will be responsible for damages??

[Chief Grey Bear]

True dat.

I can double down with that.

[jdmidwest]

So when one of your bees stings someone and they have an allergic reaction, since it is your livestock, you will be responsible for damages??

As a matter of fact, I am, to some extent. As long as they can prove it was one of my bees and not one of the many wild hives around. My property is posted, my bee hive is marked, my neighbors have been warned in case any are allergic to stings. So far, all have confused my honey bees with the local wild yellow jacket with any problem questions so far.

Contrary to popular belief, honey bees are quite timid and will not sting unless the main hive is disturbed, which they defend or when they get mashed while foraging for food. The hive is nestled inside my property lines. Someone would have to be clearly trespassing to enter the danger zone near the hive itself.

I have only been stung once, it was because I was opening the hive too close to dark in cool temps. And I was warned several times by the bee head bumping me on the hands and arm. A bee is probably smarter than a pig.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Yeah, I'm sure your bees never cross property lines. They would never, clearly trespass.

They won't have to prove it was your bee. You will have to prove it wasn't.

Next case.

[jdmidwest]

Prove my sig wrong.

You are right, unicorns and rainbows are fantasy. Poverty, national debt, high unemployment, excessive taxation, global insecurity, lies and coverups are all reality. Unfortunately, you voted for reality. Change would have been better.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Yeah, that all just started 4 years ago.

[Mitch f]

My views very much follow Winston Churchill's quote" Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains." As I become older and more financially secure I too see a large percentage of my income disappear into the void of good intensions and no accountably. I would love to embrace the central conservative points of personal and fiscal responsibility but it's hard for me to let go of intellect, reason, environmental stewardship, tolerance, religious freedom and science to do so.

This weekend it was the pointer 78 sp in ghost minnow that worked best. A lot of fish followed the bait to the boat, they took it just as it I was going to lift it out of the water. It was as though they weren't that interested until they thought the bait was getting away.

I agree with ya on the environment, republicans are wrong. Tolerance? gotta disagree there, Black caucas ladies screaming racism for questioning someone. not a good showing form the dems. Tolerance is a fake narrative designed by the libs to as a rallying cry, racism is another dog whistle.

now to the good stuff: Ghost minnow is an awesome clear water color, was the water ultra clear? BTW, you stopped at one of the best hole on the river!! hope you fished it. dont tell anyone!!!

@ cheif, thanks for chiming in! How many times do we all have to read "Which line do you use on your spinning reels" before you want to choke yourself?

anyway . I wish phil would start a political thread so the other threads stay clean!

[jdmidwest]

Yeah, I'm sure your bees never cross property lines. They would never, clearly trespass.

They won't have to prove it was your bee. You will have to prove it wasn't.

Next case.

The problem with the pig is not a matter of trespass. Animals can not recognize posted property lines. The problem was property damage and potential property damage. Owners are responsible to contain their livestock within their property boundary and are liable if they do not do so. It is a lack of responsibility that lets the animals run free, resulting in the neglect/abuse charge. And I have photo evidence of the event on game cam with time, date, temp, and moon phase.

Insects do not fall under the same classification. There are rules and regulations regarding apiaries in the state of MO and most other states. I abide by the regs and go beyond that to notify my neighbors of my hive.

[Chief Grey Bear]

I agree with ya on the environment, republicans are wrong. Tolerance? gotta disagree there, Black caucas ladies screaming racism for questioning someone. not a good showing form the dems. Tolerance is a fake narrative designed by the libs to as a rallying cry, racism is another dog whistle.

now to the good stuff: Ghost minnow is an awesome clear water color, was the water ultra clear? BTW, you stopped at one of the best hole on the river!! hope you fished it. dont tell anyone!!!

@ cheif, thanks for chiming in! How many times do we all have to read "Which line do you use on your spinning reels" before you want to choke yourself?

anyway . I wish phil would start a political thread so the other threads stay clean!

Let me make sure I am following along here. You speak of politics and fishing in a thread about a neighbors pet pig getting all Hatfield, and then you bust my chops about getting off topic all in one post??

[Chief Grey Bear]

The problem with the pig is not a matter of trespass. Animals can not recognize posted property lines. The problem was property damage and potential property damage. Owners are responsible to contain their livestock within their property boundary and are liable if they do not do so. It is a lack of responsibility that lets the animals run free, resulting in the neglect/abuse charge. And I have photo evidence of the event on game cam with time, date, temp, and moon phase.

Insects do not fall under the same classification. There are rules and regulations regarding apiaries in the state of MO and most other states. I abide by the regs and go beyond that to notify my neighbors of my hive.

Just giving you a heads up. From what you have posted over the years, if you ever get taken to court, you are screwed.