Assault Weapons

[Feathers and Fins]

Quill ill step back for a second and say this. I am far more afraid of a Person with a auto-shoty with an extended tube and 00 buckshot than I am a guy with an AR. In close quarters that shotty will due far more.

[jdmidwest]

Too Fast, Too Furious. They could not decide on the fiscal cliff, they can't come up with a budget to make the country fiscally responsible, they can't do anything but the "agenda".

This is what we really should worry about. Watch this.

[Feathers and Fins]

If thats the conspiracy video where he says there is only 1 ambulance at scene then at the 20 minute mark of the video I can see atleast 9

[jdmidwest]

If thats the conspiracy video where he says there is only 1 ambulance at scene then at the 20 minute mark of the video I can see atleast 9

There are some farfetched things in there.

But the parents of kids killed laughing and joking it up, I really don't care how strong you are, you lose a kid and you will not act like that.

My problem has always been the fact that all were DOA, no other injured. And the second person that was reported. And all of the reports on the first day only mentioning 2 handguns, nothing else. Then it was an AR only.

Do you really thing the gov is not capable of pulling it off?

[rfd515]

I'm an avid hunter as well as a multiple gun owner and I have no issue with them banning semi auto, high caliber, rifles as well as high capacity magazines.

If you don't need it for hunting then I don't see why it's a big deal if they're banned. I don't think this will necessarily stop mass shootings but I doubt it will hurt.

The NRA, as well as a lot of citizens, that think the constitution should allow you to own whatever weapon(s) you want seems pretty silly. Instead of everyone interpreting the constitution to suit their own means and ends, why not just decide as a country what we think addresses the issues but isn't over-bearing? Seems pretty simple to me.

[Flysmallie]

I just wish that at least once somebody would open fire on conspiracy theorists. They serve no purpose.

Background check? No big deal. If you have nothing to hide that is. It obviously doesn't fix all the problems but its something.

[Feathers and Fins]

I'm an avid hunter as well as a multiple gun owner and I have no issue with them banning semi auto, high caliber, rifles as well as high capacity magazines.

If you don't need it for hunting then I don't see why it's a big deal if they're banned. I don't think this will necessarily stop mass shootings but I doubt it will hurt.

The NRA, as well as a lot of citizens, that think the constitution should allow you to own whatever weapon(s) you want seems pretty silly. Instead of everyone interpreting the constitution to suit their own means and ends, why not just decide as a country what we think addresses the issues but isn't over-bearing? Seems pretty simple to me.

Ok Now in the nicest way possible. Why should I not be able to use my 338 for hunting I have for years and years or a 308 those are both HIGH CAL RIFLES you say your fine with banning. the 6.5 grendal is quickly becoming one of the most used hunting caliburs and its build and designed for the AR Platform. Your arguement holds no water as the ban is on a " look" of a weapon.

Not many sportsmen would ever call a 10/22 an "assault rifle" but do a search on many of the build projects and if you didnt know it was a 10/22 you would think AR-15. It is the look people are banning.

READ THE ARTICLE ABOVE. These guns are not assault rifles, they look like them and thats it. Another law restricting our RIGHT because of criminals and insane people is not needed, they will find another way.

[jdmidwest]

The NRA, as well as a lot of citizens, that think the constitution should allow you to own whatever weapon(s) you want seems pretty silly. Instead of everyone interpreting the constitution to suit their own means and ends, why not just decide as a country what we think addresses the issues but isn't over-bearing? Seems pretty simple to me.

Why can't I own any weapon I want to buy? I don't use them for anything illegal. If I did, current background checks would prohibit me from buying one.

I can go thru a background check, pay an outrageous tax, and own a fully auto if I desire. And with the AWB, I can still do it, it does not affect fully auto. I could still do it with the previous AWB. And with the full auto, I could really do alot of damage and still be legal.

But, the same gun, semi auto like a majority of firearms, I am branded a threat and can't buy one off the shelf with almost the same criteria and no tax. Seems like they only want the tax.

I hunt deer with an AR 15. I hunt coyote with an AR 15. I hunt groundhogs with an AR 15. I hunt feral hogs with an AR 15. I have owned and hunted with one since 1986. I am perfectly legal and responsible when I do it. I enjoy building new rifles based on the AR 15 platform, until recently when parts became extinct again. I really don't want to give up that luxury again.

[rps]

I completely and totally support hunting. Elk, moose, deer, coyote, rabbit, squirrel, duck, goose. In season and within limits. I completely and totally support home defense. Shotguns, big slug pistols, etc. So what do the new regulation proposals mean? None of those things go away. What goes away are weapons designed to damage many people very quickly. Not hunting weapons. Not home defense. The round for an AK 47, an AR 15 , etc. is designed to wound people - many people - in a hurry. The design is based on casualties - not kills. This has a use where?

Next step: we all believe a responsible gun owner has training and a desire to use weapons safely. Requiring all to register before purchase violates this how/ Requiring a sanity/court check first makes this bad how?

Let me ask a sportsman's question: When was the last time you needed ten rounds to hunt? Twenty rounds? Thirty rounds? So maybe restricted magazines have nothing to do with hunting? OK. When was the last time you needed 30 rounds to defend your home? OK. So where is your problem with smaller magazines? Are you a lesser man that cannot get the job done in ten rounds?

Does anything in the proposals criminalize past purchases or possession. No.

Does anything prohibit ownership of previously acquired weapons? No.

Finally, as a brain teaser, I served in the Oklahoma National Guard from 1971 to 1977. If you are not in the Guard, how can you really call yourself militia with a right to bear arms?

[jdmidwest]

I completely and totally support hunting. Elk, moose, deer, coyote, rabbit, squirrel, duck, goose. In season and within limits. I completely and totally support home defense. Shotguns, big slug pistols, etc. So what do the new regulation proposals mean? None of those things go away. What goes away are weapons designed to damage many people very quickly. Not hunting weapons. Not home defense. The round for an AK 47, an AR 15 , etc. is designed to wound people - many people - in a hurry. The design is based on casualties - not kills. This has a use where?

Next step: we all believe a responsible gun owner has training and a desire to use weapons safely. Requiring all to register before purchase violates this how/ Requiring a sanity/court check first makes this bad how?

Let me ask a sportsman's question: When was the last time you needed ten rounds to hunt? Twenty rounds? Thirty rounds? So maybe restricted magazines have nothing to do with hunting? OK. When was the last time you needed 30 rounds to defend your home? OK. So where is your problem with smaller magazines? Are you a lesser man that cannot get the job done in ten rounds?

Does anything in the proposals criminalize past purchases or possession. No.

Does anything prohibit ownership of previously acquired weapons? No.

Finally, as a brain teaser, I served in the Oklahoma National Guard from 1971 to 1977. If you are not in the Guard, how can you really call yourself militia with a right to bear arms?

Like many, you condemn the firearm based on the looks.

Many hunting rifles are using the .223 round. In full metal jacket form like you used in the guard, it was designed to comply with the Geneva Convention as a non expanding projectile. It became popular based on surplus ammo from the military, as did the .308 and the 7.62x39. Cheap brass and cheap practice rounds. But, all bullet manufacturers make expanding bullets to insert into the cartridge that makes it a proper hunting round. The bullet fragments and expands to a larger diameter creating more efficient wound channels to properly dispatch wild game.

Full Metal Jacket military rounds are not allowed in MO for hunting purposes. They are for target or military. .223 expanding ammo is perfectly legal and is made for hunting. And for self defense, it is preferred over the military FMG for its lethality.

I can tolerate the restriction on hunting magazines, I have 5 and 10 rounders I use for hunting game in MO. But I like 20 rounders for target shooting, that is what the gun was made with and balances with.

And you are not in the guard, so you are not the militia any more? Do you still respect the oath to protect the Constitution of the USA? No disrespect, I honor your service to our country.