Assault Weapons

[Justin Spencer]

I agree on the enforcement issue, not sure about sentences for repeat offenders, but it needs to be stiff. One problem with the hunter safety thing is that I got mine at age 12 long before I was a felon. So even with this I can go in and buy guns at a gunshow. If they performed a background check at the gunshow they would know that I was a felon and I wouldn't get my gun and probably would do more time for trying, if they enforced the law. I am not in fact a felon, but this is what could happen if all you had to do was show a 26 year old hunter safety card at a gunshow in order to buy a weapon. Better than nothing, but far from foolproof, and yes NRA is strongly behind gun safety, but I still think they are more behind the gun manufacturers as much as anything.

[Feathers and Fins]

Simple fix, Renewal of Hunter Ed card with background check at age 18.

Yes you can be a felon after that but a felon can forge the documents anyway. Again going back to everything being done doesnt benifit the law abiding people. because criminals do not care.

[jdmidwest]

Shhh JD dont tell anyone the Mag caps on them they will cry lol. Those are in 40cal and had to adjust the backstrap for my wife to dang near the 1911 size but now she is wanting to go blow off a few hundred rounds... my poor gun safe's

I can count the holes in the mag you left in the box......

Better save your ammo, it is gone around here. 22lr, 9mm, 40, 45, 223 all gone bye bye. What you have in reserve is all you will have till this thing gets caught up again.

Our XD shelf at the store is pretty bare, as is Glock, M&P, SIG, Ruger, and others. We still have some Berettas, 1911's, Kahr's, and other misc auto. Mostly 40's, 9's and 45's went quick.

[Feathers and Fins]

Ya i have to laugh at all the ammo buying its rather funny, I usually buy most my stuff all at one time in summer when i get my waterfowl and hunting loads, there were some great deals on 40cal this year so i stocked up even though i didnt need anymore.

This was actually a long time looking for my wife process and when i found matching xdm's today and sycn numbers it was a no brainer. She like 40cal and now maybe i can shoot my glock without having to share. Besides the prices were great on the pair.

Next will be another grendel build I think or 10/22 I love building those dam 10/22's

[Al Agnew]

The important question is always, how well will it work? I don't care in the least about three gun competitions--if everybody had to carry several ten round magazines and reload instead of a 30 round magazine, it would still be the same competition, just a tiny bit slower for everybody. So IF banning high capacity magazines would work to cut down on the number of people killed in a mass shooting, wanting to use them in some competition would not matter in the least.

But...if banning high capacity magazines won't work as intended, then why do it?

And...at what point does the good outweigh the bad? If banning high capacity magazines could save one life, would that be enough? If it could prevent one mass shooting, would that be enough? How well would it have to work to be enough to justify it?

Humans have a hard time assessing risks. We see this horrible mass shooting of children, and we want to do everything we possibly can to prevent it from happening again. But in reality, as horrible as it is, mass shootings are so rare that we should be worrying a whole lot more about drunk drivers, planes crashing, or any one of a number of more common threats to life. The possibility of your child being killed in a mass shooting is probably just one of the small risks of life in America, a risk that we probably can't make much less likely than it is now, no matter what we do.

[Feathers and Fins]

Al, i made a video today but cant figure out how to get it posted or if i screwed up making it... anyway... I showed firing 3 15 round mags in 14 seconds, I then did 3 10 round mags in 12 seconds. IMO there is no way in this world anyone will stop someone a shooter who can switch mags that fast. 30 rounds or 45 rounds no differnt its still a lot of lead down range. So to me the mag cap is moot.

[jdmidwest]

The important question is always, how well will it work? I don't care in the least about three gun competitions--if everybody had to carry several ten round magazines and reload instead of a 30 round magazine, it would still be the same competition, just a tiny bit slower for everybody. So IF banning high capacity magazines would work to cut down on the number of people killed in a mass shooting, wanting to use them in some competition would not matter in the least.

But...if banning high capacity magazines won't work as intended, then why do it?

And...at what point does the good outweigh the bad? If banning high capacity magazines could save one life, would that be enough? If it could prevent one mass shooting, would that be enough? How well would it have to work to be enough to justify it?

Humans have a hard time assessing risks. We see this horrible mass shooting of children, and we want to do everything we possibly can to prevent it from happening again. But in reality, as horrible as it is, mass shootings are so rare that we should be worrying a whole lot more about drunk drivers, planes crashing, or any one of a number of more common threats to life. The possibility of your child being killed in a mass shooting is probably just one of the small risks of life in America, a risk that we probably can't make much less likely than it is now, no matter what we do.

It did not stop Columbine, Jonesboro, or any of the others that happened after Columbine. Sandy Hook was in a state that still had most of the original gun ban in place, mags were banned.

Why do it? Because they have been itching to do it again since the last ban was lifted. They just love to pee us gun owners off with worthless legislation. And it creates a distraction from what they should really be doing like creating a budget, controlling the debt, and all of the other stuff we elected them for.

[Feathers and Fins]

It did not stop Columbine, Jonesboro, or any of the others that happened after Columbine. Sandy Hook was in a state that still had most of the original gun ban in place, mags were banned.

Why do it? Because they have been itching to do it again since the last ban was lifted. They just love to pee us gun owners off with worthless legislation. And it creates a distraction from what they should really be doing like creating a budget, controlling the debt, and all of the other stuff we elected them for.

AMEN

[joeD]

Every year, 15,000 people die from gun violence. We don't care about them because they are black and poor, mostly.

15,000.

Every year. Been going for ages.

15,000. Always. Yet nothing is being done.

Take your magazine and assault weapon and mental health issues and gun control arguments and shove it up your butt.

[jdmidwest]

Every year, 15,000 people die from gun violence. We don't care about them because they are black and poor, mostly.

15,000.

Every year. Been going for ages.

15,000. Always. Yet nothing is being done.

Take your magazine and assault weapon and mental health issues and gun control arguments and shove it up your butt.

Exactly, too many people in the world today. Something has to thin them out.