bfishn Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 You can (finally) download pre-impoundment topos (for all but Avalon) at the USGS Historical map site; http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/topomaps/f?p=262:1:22602829645695 Select Arkansas/All scales, then type in Hiwasse (for the west side lakes). Select the oldest version ('71 or '72) and dowload the GeoPDF. Go back and do the same, only type in Bentonville North for the east side. Should be able to get the lake elevations on the POA site, but even without them a little eyeball comparison to the BV map or Google Earth and you'll have a pretty good picture of things. The house sites were all dozed/burned, and most of the timber too (pers comm). For manmade structure, the old roadbeds are about all that's left, and they're pretty subtle, but some still have a visible clue to location on the shoreline. If I ever get bored/shutin enough to redo them in Photoshop, I'll post them here for all, but I don't see that happening till at least winter... :-) I can't dance like I used to.
Guest Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 There's a way to scan those images then bring them into Google earth and run a photo overlay. Its time consuming but I might give it a try one evening. Thanks for the link
Quillback Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 That would be cool if one of you guys could put that info together.
bfishn Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 I played with Windsor a bit tonight after work. Made the water area on the new map clear and then photomerged the new & old maps using Chelsea as a snap line. Extremely surprised at the differences in the land topo lines between the two, likely the difference in photogrammatic technique changes in 40 years. Chelsea hasn't moved though, and it snapped pretty close. I reached the point of diminishing return, so I'll put this preliminary version up now in case it might help the OP on his trip. 20 ft contours. The dam shows straight down instead of contoured like reality. I'll probably delete this one when I can spend more time at it, but for now it's better than nothing. I can't dance like I used to.
Guest Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Hey, that's pretty good. Bfishn, where did you learn to merge maps and so forth? I had no idea there was a roadbed running on the west side by the dam area. Ive actually caught a few fish there. I don't know the name of the south arm, but theres a bunch of huge brushpiles at the mouth near the no wake buoys. I can post some down images of them. I'm not sure, but I think Benton County has a 2ft interval contour map available now. I doubt theres any data for these lakes but its worth a look.
Guest Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 This was a quick attempt, but I didn't get the transparency right. I will have to tweek it later.
Guest Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 I'm going out there tomorrow afternoon. I hope the muddy water is blowing thru the culverts under Chelsea.
Quillback Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Little Sugar was angry and brown yesterday, so you might be getting some muddy water. Are you going for LM or panfish?
Guest Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Little Sugar was angry and brown yesterday, so you might be getting some muddy water. Are you going for LM or panfish? Taking my dad and he wants the LM. This is our first trip of the year over there.
Quillback Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Cool, I'd offer some advice but it's been a few weeks since I've fished Windsor, I keep meaning to get over there. Good luck and I'll be interested to hear how you do.
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