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Gramps--- If I understand it correctly you are fishing this bait with a light weight or no weight at all leaving it sink and giving it a bit of action. Have no idea what sort of setting you are doing this in but I do This lot with large plastic worms. Currently I am fishing pretty shallow with 11" plastic worms with a 1/16 or 1/8 oz slip sinker on them. Its really hard to describe my retrieve other than to say it is a a jerky kind of swimming action. I am pretty connected to where and what that worm is doing and I sort of create it as I go. I also fish this way over deep brush and ledges where bass will hold. The whole retrieve may vary a bit as well as the weight used. But the basic thing it is very effective for me at times. Try a big worm on there sometime gramps. Try it over a deep area where a bunch of big bass are holding when they are rising to feed and you may really be in for a surprise. I have done it.

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