Snake Id Help Needed

[Wayne SW/MO]

The problem I see, now, is that the dark and persimmonn link doesn't appear right. My first thought was a Timber, but after checking coloration patterns they don't seem to match?

[E Green]

sent the pic to several herpatoligists. One got back to me and said that it is an eastern hognose. Still waiting on the biologist at Mingo but he has helped me out before. that guy knows his stuff

[podum]

Looks like the herp is right. I googled images of the hognose and, man, there is a wide, wide range of color variations.

[Al Agnew]

Bingo! That's the matching pattern. Hognose it is!

[jdmidwest]

Dang ole spread head, a Missouri Cobra. I have not seen one since I was a kid, but I don't remember much color on them.

[E Green]

yep...thanks for all the help and input....fiun thread

I found a "new" species yesterday in my driveway. The pics are on my wife's iphone though and I didn't get a chance to upload them yet but will soon. It was a small midland brown snake...very cool. small guy....anyways, thanks again.

[podum]

I had a young hognose as a pet years ago. It had only black and tan markings. I saw an adult on the Kings this past June that was greyish brown with no markings at all. When you google the images of the thing, it should be called the rainbow snake.

[ColdWaterFshr]

Spoke to my friend who IS a herpetologist. I had shared this picture with him last week and he laughed at this discussion. He said it is definitely not a hognose snake. He said there is a grand total of only 7 herpetologists in the state and he knows all of them. He asked me to ask WHO your herpetologist is that says this is a hognose snake.

[jdmidwest]

From the original pic, it really could have been anything. It was a juvenile snake just shedding out. Hard to tell what it was.

[E Green]

I saw two that were just like it at Sam A Baker State Park on the Shut In's Trail. Eastern Hognose for sure. Tough snake to handle...reminded me of the yellow bellied racer. The Hognose is an awesome creature. It is one of the coolest animal encounters I have had here in the Ozarks so far.

coldwaterfishy. I'm not from MO and I never said I personally knew the herpetoligist that I reached out to for help. I never said this herpetologist was in or from MO either. I'm not sure why you are so offended but whatever. My family will say a prayer for you. cheers