Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted October 1, 2013 Root Admin Posted October 1, 2013 Lake Taneycomo, near Branson, Mo., could eventually produce the next world-record brown trout. The Missouri Department of Conservation shocked up a 40-pound female several years ago. She may still be swimming around Taneycomo, feeding on rainbow trout, sculpin and other delicious critters that make the mistake of swimming too close.http://www.examiner.net/article/20130928/SPORTS/130928784/-1/sports
laker67 Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 If mdc would allow the experimentation of triploid and seaforellen browns I would say definately yes. And even a few years back I would have said "a likely possibility". Knowing what I know now about our unique strain of brown trout, I would say "possible but not likely". It is certainly likely that taney will produce some low 30's in the near future. For those who might be wondering, the picture is of Nathan Deisel with a tremendous 23.75lb fish. Caught in 04 if my memory has not failed me. Thanks for posting this Phil.
Lancer09 Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I'm sure there is Probably more than one in there. However I think too many brown's get kept once they hit that 20 inch mark instead of going back to be caught again. I don't think Taney gets the trophy fishing stigma like the white river does and until that is there it might be tough for a world record to come out of it.
Dylan Cluver Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I agree with laker on the introduction on triploids. The triploids are sterile so they don't expend energy on spawning. The population could be controlled by the number planted. If the question was raised on them affecting other fish population, what is really the difference in stocking stripers elsewhere? The world record rainbow is a triploid. No one gripes about obese fish.
Lancer09 Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Should it really count though or is that essentially farming a record. I'd prefer them not recognize the triploids and give them a separate record.
laker67 Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Dylan brought up a good point about the new record rainbow being a triploid. In addition to that, the new world record brown is a seaforellen. Missouri and arkansas strains of rainbow and brown trout have already been put on the back burner by these two strains of fish. I am not very well versed on rainbow trout, but I can tell you that missouri has the midget strain of all rainbow trout. As far as brown trout, here is what I know. Missouri fish have a shelf life of 13 years and grow to around 29 lbs. Arkansas fish live for 17 years and grow to just over 40 lbs. I am not sure as to how long a life span the seaforellen fish has, but I do know that current world record fish is 6.5 years old at 41.5 lbs. Pictures of a 55 and a 56 lber from a lake in scotland in the sixties made front page news in outdoor life. These fish were somehow excluded from the record books for reasons I do not recall. I would like to see 40 lb fish at taney in my lifetime.
Lancer09 Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 If the seaforellan are a natural strain I have No issue with them. Trout aaren't native here anyway. But why are they just now really making headlines for records if the strain has been around for so long?
laker67 Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 The seaforellens were brought into michigan and new york because they are a lake dwelling trout. Not sure when, but they could not have been here for long. As far as farm raised, one could count missouri's fish as farm raised.As to refer back to the original topic, I do not think that missouri is capable of producing a world record brown with our current fish that mdc raises. No complaints though, missouri has a fine brown trout fishery. We have several big fish to whet our appetites.
Lancer09 Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 They are the big ones that run into the tribs to spawn right? I mean I guess I'll help some people go catch a few to bring back to Taney to let go and hope they move up the ladder and the hatchery uses them. Missouri does have a good fishery, but why settle for good when it could be great
jdmidwest Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Of course, the shocking may have injured it and it ended up as turtle food. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
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