Wayne SW/MO Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 Should it really count though or is that essentially farming a record. I'd prefer them not recognize the triploids and give them a separate record. X2 Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
10pointer Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 Racine sure does have some big seaforellens. Jeff is right racine harbor did produce one of them. Fish in the 15-25 range are fairly common hope to hook up with some of those pigs here in a few weeks when Im up hitting the run! Could care less about 40"+ kings even though they are a blast im there for the monster browns.....too bad the daily limit is at 5 as those big fish dont stand a chance once they enter the tribs
Micheal Kyle Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 Here is my 2cents worth! If we are to have a world record producing fishery then it has to be managed as one and not as a put/take which it is now. I was working with the MDC the night that we shocked the big brown up that would have smashed the then world record. What a fish however she was a minority .What I saw the rest of the night and also the next 2 weeks while working on the report there were a lot of fish in the 15-20 inch range and then the larger fish were in a minority. I believe there have been a lot of changes to Taney over the past years not only in terrain but also in the food source and competing of other fish (not Trout). Take for example the food source. The scuds were virtually on the endangered species list at Taney they have made a comeback in a huge way but so have the other competitors for that food source like the hog nose sucker they eat the same stuff as trout. Now once a Brown Trout gets big they don’t eat small meals any more, not to say that they don’t do it on occasion. They eat other small fish, rodents and just about anything its wants too. IMO if we are going to see a world record fishery out of Taney then it needs to be managed as such and raise the length limits on Browns lake wide to 24” get rid of some the competition for the smaller fish to be able to forage and grow. Once this happens I give it 3-5 years and it will happen, take for example the White River in Arkansas. They increased the length limit on the browns last year and look what it has done for people catching larger fish this past summer numerous pictures of 24-28 inch Browns from all up and down the river. To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways!
Jeff Tief Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 Amen ,Michael on the 24" limit on those browns.
Dylan Cluver Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 What would it take to get it changed? No one gripes about obese fish.
Lancer09 Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 It's an attitude thing and I think it would take a couple years for people to stop bitching and moaning about How they can't keep a 20 inch brown until they really start seeing the 24s show up. Taney can stay a put and take for rainbows for all I care and the more small on es that get stocked the more good food for big brown's there is. Taney as a true trophy fishery in theory should be able to support itself by increasing the appeal to a greater number of anglers. That increases purchases of tags from out of staters, food bought while in town etc. There really doesn't seem to be Any negative effect of managing it as a trophy brown fishery. Then again I wouldn't be opposed to the stocking of Brooks and cutts as Well. It's not like Taney is a native fishery.
Dylan Cluver Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 I'm guessing $$$ is why brooks and cutties aren't there? No one gripes about obese fish.
Lancer09 Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 A $2 increase on our yearly trout stamps would Probably do the job. Maybe it would be easier to get some from Dow. In Arkansas if we hadn't burned some bridges about whether or not to stock stripers in Bull Shoals. Again It's a small thing that would lend to the marketability of Taney and draw some of the anglers up from Arkansas. Would it totally replace the tail waters down there? No. However it would give us options up here too. Think about some of those stripers in Taney! Now that would be fun, before It's totally dismissed look down I. The nfow thread about dawt mill being damaged and some of the scientific proof in there that trout numbers would not be Seriously impacted.
Micheal Kyle Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Not sure of the year but I do know that they tried land lock salmon in Taney back in the 70's I believe. I agree with rainbows put/take and I will stand behind the just increase the length limit and you might be surprised as what would happen to the Browns. Trout grow very quick compared to other species of fish so with a decrease of competition for food plus increase length limits with create a larger number of big fish. The money is already there by the 1/8 cents sales tax on every penny spent in the state of Missouri. All we have to do is convince the MDC to commit more funding to their budget for the fishery of Taneycomo. To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways!
Lancer09 Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 I mean How much more money would it really require to up the size limit? How fly we beginning to push the idea? A petition? Was there just not enough interest in the salmon? I know there are a tonight of kokanee out in Colorado that seem to be pretty popular.
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