Oh Brother, They Shut The Web Down Too....

[Justin Spencer]

Got it wrong.

Oh.

[mixermarkb]

Lol, I'm out.

[1969Larson]

Then get after it. Get the Tea Party state reps writing those bills, and talking about it. I'll vote for them if they have a credible plan to provide health coverage for the poor in Missouri.

Let's do it!

Believe me, I see the problem. I know there is an issue with healthcare costs and availability. Based on their track record, I don't trust the Federal Government to be able to handle this.

I really think that this should be addressed locally, by physicians, and in conjunction with charities.

[1969Larson]

Oh.

Guess you don't think the Supreme Court has ever been wrong before?

In 1884 the Supreme Court declared slaves the property of their masters.

In 1896 the Supreme Court ruled that segregation was legal.

Among others.

[Justin Spencer]

Believe me, I see the problem. I know there is an issue with healthcare costs and availability. Based on their track record, I don't trust the Federal Government to be able to handle this.

I really think that this should be addressed locally, by physicians, and in conjunction with charities.

I would love to see it happen, but it's too big a problem for that, maybe if states come up with their own plan that includes everyone they can opt out of federal program.

At least we agree there's a big problem.

[1969Larson]

Somehow I pay a very small reasonable local tax each year and my local school district is able to employee nearly 1000 staff and educate 15,000 students each year. The majority of the funding for this comes from local and state taxes.

Could we not care for the small number of local individuals who are in dire need of medical care and unable to pay for it the same way? Also, if I don't like something in my school district, I march into the Superintendents office and we talk about it.

[Guest Brian B.]

There is NO such thing as an Obamaphone. The free phone program was started under Bush, and is totally funded by the phone companies and private donations.

"Totally funded by the phone companies and private donations.." That is a lie

Man its so easy to get drawn into conversations with Liberals about these topics, the problem is all the while you want so badly to come out and ask them what form of welfare they are drawing-- all the while knowing that asking is a complete waste of time because they will deny drawing anything. I have a friend on another site that is crazy left- defends the ObamaCare with fierceness- "whaaa- the system is sooo flawed"... Of course this friend doesn't want to work a regular job but rather work... Hmm, here and there if he feels like it... (But wants me to provide his healthcare) I can't give more detail on line of work or age because it is a dear friend, a truly mixed up delusional Marxist friend... My gosh sometimes I want to choke him...

I wonder in conversations like the ones above how many beat-nick types I'm talking to here, and then realize there is no point in the discussion... You will never make a person see that they are for stealing from one group- to another, especially if they are one of the ones "on the teet"...

"It's Socialism Stupid!" (Just like the bumper sticker says, its just that simple. Stop attempting to legislate "fairness" and "compassion"... That is not the role of Government)

[Guest Brian B.]

What form of assistance do you draw?

What do you think about Obama's stance on infants born alive during attempted abortions?

Do you know Obama's history with the issue of infants born alive after attempted/failed abortions?

How do you reconcile that history with your Christian faith?

[Guest Brian B.]

I would show you the factual links, on several sites, that explain where the Obamaphone myth came from, but since you clearly live in the fact free Fox echodome, I'll save my typing.

I'm not "religious". I'm a born again Christian, who studies the bible to grow closer in my personal relationship with Jesus.

And-

I'm proud to have voted for President Obama, twice. He's not perfect, I haven't agreed with all of his choices, but I think he was my best choice of the options I had.

(Sorry Mark, I edited my post for fear I had misunderstood what you. Were saying- so your reply here doesn't read complete- that is my fault)

[jdmidwest]

I guess it depends on what you mean. To my knowledge a hospital cannot deny care, regardless of ability to pay. But I think one could make the argument that refusing to cover those with pre-existing conditions represents a denial of healthcare.

No, its a denial of insurance because the risk is too great.

Insurance is a business where a pool of people put money into a pot to be used in case of emergency. That money tends to draw interest and make more. People are asked to put money into that pot based on the risks of age, health, and other criteria. But if someone wants to enter into the investment/insurance company with a risk factor that would result in a larger than normal payout resulting in a loss too great, they are denied.

That person can still get health care. They just have to pay out of pocket.