Mitch f Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Nothing wrong with Rogues, I've got a dozen or so. But the average guy has no idea about how much testing, re-testing, re-testing, 30 piece statistical study at the micron level, re- test, re-test again 100 more times until the Japanese perfect a bait. Then it runs perfect right out of the package and casts like a bullet. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Old plug Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 I have never had to go through all that much with to tune a bait. You can really spend to much time and thought on a fishing tuning a plug. Being a lake type most of my tunes are temp in nature and have to do with sink rates. Or straightening the running out after having goofed and smacked the the rocky bank with the plug. If that is not happening to you on this lake now and then your going to miss a lot of fish in the winter and early spring. I get most my strikes when the lure is sitting still or when I first touch the line t twitch it. I use mostly the lead stripes in my balancing because i can alter it right there on the spot. I have seen days where the plug needs to rise faster than what it does and vice versa. What bugged me about the post was Kayzer seemed to be feeling feeling he was messed up about fishing these type of lures. I did not want him to feel that way. NOW I am through with this and am going to make a couple Gar lures to drop off at my Cardiologist Office next week. I am going to let him figure out what you catch on them.
Blazerman Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 One things for sure, you boys get fired up about jerkbaits. Maybe y'all can share what you like to tweak or what your favorite bait does that others don't. I'm interested to here it. Trophy, wish i could tell you but i can't because we could not see the difference. but the fish sure did. A group of us have fished the White river for trophy browns for 25 years and we always used to throw count down rapalas and rogues and sometimes shad raps for big browns. Then a few years ago one of the guys shows up with a lucky craft slender pointer and I watched him catch fish after fish on it. He was in my boat and I was throwing my same old rogue from the front of the boat and I would watch these browns and rainbows come look at my rogue and do nothing. He would throw to the same fish and they were fighting each other to see which one could eat it first. I tried everything I had jerkbait wise to try and match the action of that pointer in the water but never was able too. There was something about it that drove the fish crazy and by the end of the trip he had out fished us 10-1. He also had the biggest fish on the trip which was a brown over 12 lbs. You can bet we all had them the next year. Seeing is believing.
Old plug Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Maybe it was not the rogue maybe it was your retrieve.
LittleRedFisherman Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 LovE These Topics! Just Ordered An Lc Pointer Haven'tTried Those Yet There's no such thing, as a bad day fishing!
Blazerman Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Old Plug your probably right. So don't bother trying them especially for big browns or smallmouth either. .
Old plug Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Blazerman----- i can remember some years back fishing with another guy on a saddle hump for bass. We were both using plastic worms rigged the same and fishing the same area. He caught about ten small bass and I had not caught any. Before we quit he caught another 10 and I still had not caught anything. We decided to stop because nothing larger was showing up. The reason for the difference I believe is best said by saying I was fishing from my rod and he was fishing from the worm. There is a whole world of difference and its connected to being in the right state of mind. And I assure you it will effect retrieve.
bfishn Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 No where more appropriate than this to bring up the importance of the jerk at the end of the rod. I can't dance like I used to.
Mitch f Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Old Plug your probably right. So don't bother trying them especially for big browns or smallmouth either. . "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
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