WHARFRAT Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 From what I've seen in demos, and other peoples Hummingbirds, the Lakemaster chip is very good and user friendly. But, it supposedly sucks for Lake of the Ozarks. I have heard there is an updated chip out there that includes a better defined Lake of the Ozarks map. Does anybody have any information, or seen one in action? Any input will be appreciated. @lozcrappie
Old plug Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I know most maps suck for LOZ. Fishing nodes ridges and humps are really my thing. Many are tiny things that only rise are fall a few feet. Most maps you see of LOZ are based on a 20 ft contour topos that were made in the 1930s when they built the dam and did not show even then. But the natural bottom erosion of the lake has changed it even more. those kind of bottom structures or devils to find.
DChance Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 It doesn't necessarily suck, but it isn't any better than anything else out there like Navionics. Lakemaster does have some lakes in HD which are really nice, just LOZ is not one of them. I have the chip and use it and I also have the Navionics. both have their pros and cons. I would really like an HD map of LOZ though. Pomme is in HD
Old plug Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 what do you mean by HD. have they come from some sort of hydro graphic work. if not I have never heard of it. the only contour maps I know where ever made were 20 ft interval make around 1930.
WHARFRAT Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 Do you have the updated chip? I heard that they have one out, or it just came out, or it's coming out. I've talked to a couple people at BPS and Cabelas and can't get a straight answer. They just said "they heard" LOZ was much improved, compared to the last chip that they have. The reason, I'm buying new electronics for my boat and would rather have the Lakemaster chip just in case I upgrade to I-link down the road. But I've heard most people are not happy with the current Lakemaster chip for LOZ. @lozcrappie
Old plug Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 WARFRAT like i say the last one i have ever heard of was 20 ft contour interval and about 1930. It is not to be trusted. the lake is very old and the contour of the bottom changes in many small ways. I would think they would have to have a hydro graphic made to be accurate. If this new one comes out with more contour intervals it is even worse since they would have to be guessing. besides that a lot of breaks are very small. i find most of mine by mistake. a break like that can show up anywhere. You have a 2 ft drop om a ledge on even a 5 ft contour and it will not show.
DChance Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 HD is for High Definition. Oldplug Navionics and Lakemaster dont just sell chips of 1930s maps. they have been mapped much more recent than that. Heck the Fishing Hot spots map book is more updated than that. As far as I know there is not a "new and improved" LOZ map. the best most current one that I know of is the one that is most currently available on both the Navionics and Lakemaster chips. I do know Lakemaster does all of their charting so it is not just a reproduction. I know a couple guys that represent Humminbird and Lakemaster, I will send them a message to find a difinitive answer.
Old plug Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 I have never heard of a totally new survey map done of LOZ. Even the power company uses those made in the 30s. For real accuracy I would think would require hydro sounding . That would be a massive undertaking costing a lots of money. I can see taking the maps from the 30s and through a computer generate a contour bottom. Then maybe it works in conjunction with your sonar and forms a picture that way. I do not really know there are so many docks that will effect it too. I want to research it and talk to some people around here. Maybe I will learn something
fishinwrench Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 I do know Lakemaster does all of their charting so it is not just a reproduction. They didn't survey the contours, so what are you saying here? The most accurate contours of LO are the old yellow "structure graphics" maps....which are flawed drastically in areas, but still closer to accurate than anything. There are several areas on this lake that I know like the back of my hand, and I can look at the mapping images and tell you for certain if they are accurate, or even close. Most aren't. I'd be surprised if anyone has done a "new survey" that wasn't just an assumption made by simply continuing the contour patterns out from the surrounding dry land, then adding in what OLD SURVEY material indicates. I understand that is hard to come to grips with after spending hard earned cash on that software .....but I'm afraid that is a fact. Accept it and learn, or deny it and stay ignorant. It's your choice. I'm not saying that the software isn't any good, or that it isn't useful, but it's no better than the old yellow POS maps.
DChance Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Ok guys. Sorry for my misunderstanding. I did find out though that lakemaster will indeed release a new chip in 2014 that includes a high definition map of loz that they scanned themselves. Their maps are great I am sure t will be a very good map.
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