Members Invert Interest Posted November 13, 2014 Author Members Posted November 13, 2014 A trout hatchery/crawdad combo, XD omg what a great idea! like growing monster earthworms under the rabbit hutch. Im not into the money side, so much as the novelty. kind of like a set up a saw- fell in love with it, on paper, anyway- a system where you can grow fish in one barrel-that sends the wastewater(up or sideways) into the next barrel that grows your veggies. Fish get big.. you have a fish fry. Do we have any native crawfish that get as big is the market kind? seems they were always pretty small. In a perfect situation i would LOVE to growout a few freshwater lobsters in that aquaponic system i just described. Bright blue ones. i mean, if you have to look at them everyday, you might as well enjoy them lol have you ever thought of trying your business again?
bfishn Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 If by "market kind" you mean those seen in a grocery or restaurant, then yes, even bigger. Of the dozens (hundreds?) of native species, many get to 8". Several varieties not only have blue accents, but red, orange and olives and are quite striking. Local varieties have a slightly less favorable tail/body ratio than Louisiana dads, but make up for it with big, meaty claws. Back in the business? Yeah, I'd love it. Problem is, there's only so many desirable natural springs with suitable surroundings. At one time, most were utilized for aquaculture. Now they're becoming mere lawn ornaments for the well to do. Way out of my league. I can't dance like I used to.
Members Invert Interest Posted November 13, 2014 Author Members Posted November 13, 2014 hmm. ok- if i went native dads, then a unilateral ban against raising, or even moving a crawdad anywhere in missouri, would still be a problem. Even more so now, because a native crawdad in one spot, really Could be a potential competitor in another spot., if it was to escape. All native breeds are on the same playing field - the Australian breeds are a total shut out, without artificial climate control, they stop growing, dont reproduce, then they die. If i have to fight for a few dozen dads, really the Red Claw, or Blue Marron would be the better product, and with fewer risks to the natural status quo... It would appear to make sense to use a native, but unless i can find a suitable variety from the nearest creek, it would still be breaking the law to some people.
bfishn Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 I guess I'm not familiar with the "unilateral ban" you speak of. Could you provide a link please? I can't dance like I used to.
Old plug Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 I go along with the full scale banthing inspite of the fact it might not do any good at this late date. Nothing has to escale confinment to spread some darn fool will just dump something into a lake . We have had a gator and a couple of pythons here at LOZ and a few Other things. Most of the provlem is not the critters its human beings.
Members HeWhoFishesSolo Posted November 13, 2014 Members Posted November 13, 2014 "I get the impression that your interest is centered more towards the commercial arena than you indicate. Your posts read far to eloquent and in-depth for someone who is unable to afford a Happy Meal. (No offense intended there, just openly spilling my thoughts)" Exactly
Justin Spencer Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 Is it illegal to farm these species in Mo? Permits should be required, but these aren't like the rusty crawfish which can be very invasive. I don't see how farming these is illegal in Missouri, due to temp. Requirements it would have to be done indoors in large part. I say go for it! "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
Wayne SW/MO Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 I suppose if a person was really interested in a crawdad meal and lived in the White river watershed the the Table Rock craw would be the choice. They get large and they are native, problem solved and no need for a bug from Australia that gets bigger. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Members Invert Interest Posted November 13, 2014 Author Members Posted November 13, 2014 Hi wayne. If an exemption is made for the Australian Lobsters on condition that they require climate management to survive.. We can all have happy native dads living unmolested, and our delicious lobster on the side. Ive been to a few farm demonstrations - you know, tour and BBQ promoting this and that-- i would so go for that and everyone would be able to keep up with the latest findings. ty
Chief Grey Bear Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 Why are you so hell bent on getting us on board with this? I find it very strange you just happened upon this forum and just happened upon a thread from 6 years ago. But the more you post.... Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
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